Star_Trek is a safe harbour for Star Trek fans that may have found themselves on the receiving end of the ban hammer for daring to have an opinion that differed from the power mad mods on Reddit’s Star Trek sub and/or Lemmy’s own StarTrek.website.
You’re safe to like or dislike any show, character, writer, showrunner or episode here.
So come and discuss the greatest sci-fi franchise in history free from rogue mods on power trip.
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There aren’t any power-mad mods on startrek.website. It’s okay to just call a community “/c/trek4assholes”
Go say you dislike Discovery or you like Picard S3 and see what happens.
Or just read the modlog. It’s a real eye opener.
@dohpaz42 here’s one of them. If you sort by removed comments or removed posts you get the picture.
I commented that I wanted to move Discovery out of main cannon a few days ago. It was controversial but the comment is still there and it has positive karma.
I think there’s arguments to made that all of the modern Trek from 2009’s abysmal movie to the present day does actually take place in the Kelvin Timeline.
There’s so many inconsistencies with established canon that can’t all be put down to bad writing.
So Nemesis would still be the most recent events we’ve seen in the prime timeline.
Wtf are you going on about? Hating Discovery is the vanilla of star trek opinions.
And something that the mods on startrek.website and the Reddit sub simply don’t allow, often removing negative comments under the “be constructive” excuse.
It’s a similar situation if you heap too much praise on season 3 of Picard and/or Terry Matalas.
And don’t dare try to criticise Alex Kurtzman on their community. I was insta banned for saying that I believe Kurtzman is the worst thing to ever happen to the franchise.
Haven’t had any interactions with ST.W personally, but I feel tempted to share the testimony of someone who begs to differ (@Stamets@lemmy.world of !tenforward@lemmy.world): https://lemmy.zip/post/9940581
I wasn’t a fan of the prequels
Gene Roddenberry was a Communist and I miss the Communist ideals represented in his writing.
Gene wasn’t a Communist. I have no idea why people believe this. People keep saying it’s becauseTrek is insanely Communist but it’s just… Not? Everything isn’t owned by the state, people own land, etc.
But back to Gene. His behavior alone shows he wasn’t a Communist. He wrote lyrics to the Trek theme that were never used so he’d have a writing credit and get kickbacks from the royalties. He set up a company to sell Trek merch but put it in his new wife’s name so his ex wife wouldnt get a claim on it as part of divorce proceedings. Dude leaned on everyone and destroyed relationships to make sure he had most creative control over the movies and TNG.
Nothing about him was communist.
Who told you Communism is when everything is owned by the state? Communism is when society becomes so technologically advanced and so abundant in resources that the state withers away and currency is no longer needed. So, you know, Star Trek. Also, his wife said he was a Communist
Communism is when society becomes so technologically advanced and so abundant in resources that the state withers away and currency is no longer needed.
Okay, so not Star Trek then as there is explicitly a state. The Federation itself has its own mandates and laws but every individual planet is governed as well. The Federation is a Representative Republic that has an election every 4 years.
Also, his wife said he was a Communist
Actions speak louder than words and his actions blatantly demonstrate that he was not a communist.
Roddenberry, fearing that he would not make money off of Trek, wrote lyrics to the song, without any intention of using them, to get half the royalties—money that should have gone to Courage. Courage was so furious that he never returned to work on Star Trek (Deezen). Roddenberry, unapologetic, continued to see more and more profits from the franchise, becoming very wealthy over the years. The irony is that Roddenberry identified as a communist, according to his wife Majel Barrett-Roddenberry (Bennett). One would expect someone who identified as a communist, a bold label to adopt during the Cold War, to go to greater lengths to avoid such a serious income gap between himself and his employees.
Currency was even a thing during TOS, something that often gets ignored. Federation Credits. Credits which were used to entice bounty hunters to go after specific targets, to purchase highly unique items and used to pay for the training of crewmen. Kirk bitches about how much it costs to train Spock at one point. Kirk even gave Scotty ‘a weeks bonus pay’ for getting the phasers up and running when dealing with the Doomsday machine. Think all that ended in TOS? Well, no. Federation Credits were still used constantly in TNG. The Barzans and their wormhole. The Federation was willing to cough up over a million credits then and there plus another 100k every year after that to get rights to the wormhole. More examples on top of that that are not exactly difficult to find.
Nothing about Trek is ‘communist’ and it’s often wildly misunderstood to be so. Very little about Gene was communist other than a claim from his wife after the man had died. And something that he never really demonstrated at any point in his life.
The drama and polarization of the star trek community on Lemmy is so weird!
