Don’t commit crimes in the biggest business capital on the planet and maybe it won’t be an issue? Manhattan has a physically very small amount of space that a bunch of people want to be in. If you don’t want to play by their rules then go somewhere else. Everyone who moves out because of their politics will lose money, and there are plenty of people who are happy to make the money you give up on. Sorry the market decided it didn’t want you, don’t let the door hit you on the way out
If your business model is grift and fraud, then yes, please move your business out.
It’s good advice for businesses that keep two entirely different sets of books depending on whether they’re getting loans or paying taxes. I think there’s a word for that. Oh yeah, fraud. Look what Obama has done to this country. Can’t even commit fraud anymore.
i predict a New York business boom
Business has been declining in New York since 2019.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/new-york-california-each-lost-assets-financial-firms-fled-south
These are high-paying jobs that are gone and are not coming back.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/new_york/article_c805dfd6-dde6-11ec-8d0e-4f667cd41881.html
Over 19.5 billion lost from people leaving.
Not sure why you think a boom is going to happen when everything points to the opposite.
Gee whiz mister, was there something that happened between 2019 and 2020 that might impact statistics in a way that might not make them super accurate models for the future?
Agreed. New York is on the decline. It’s not really to do with New York itself though - Covid has hammered all big cities in the USA. Remote work made companies realize they can get the same work done without the crazy cost of paying for workspace. See the same in 3 other cities I have customers - Houston has an ongoing exodus of higher paying jobs due to unpopular Texas policies combined with remote work. I used to go there on a monthly basis. Our office there closed in December, and we’re a leading IT company. Raleigh NC is another example like that, but not quite as bad. Basically any city with a high percentage of jobs that migrated to remote work have been hit hard. What follows those jobs leaving is decline of all the restaurants and other businesses that depend on those folks living there and spending money. I have one co-worker that moved from Houston to Sault St. Marie Michigan - wayyy up north. He literally got in a bidding war for a house up there. Pre-covid that would have never happened. I have another peer that lived in Detroit proper, and is now living on the Oregon coast a stones throw from CA. Of course these are all anecdotal accounts, but the stats I’ve read all point to a system change away from urban centers prompted by remote work. I know that’s what it was for me too.
Which unpopular policies? I have seen nothing but crazy growth in my Texas customers. I don’t have any directly in New York but I have many financial customers who have moved out of New York because of all the taxation. I travel often and Chicago is not what it used to be. I blame COVID for that. That was a cool city until COVID wrecked it.
Oregon Coast is nice. Go look at home prices and see how much they have jumped. That is the COVID effect.
Mr. Wonderfuls whole argument is disingenuous.
He says forget Trump , and then goes through it all, but Trump did the fraud consistently to a level noone else would ever dream of.
Most people who do this type of fraud add 20% value perhaps to squeeze a bit more cash out of it. Trump went full on 500% valuation on things that will never add up or reach the value.
It’s a clear difference, not another one of these "both sides’ type arguments they try to lower everyone down to.
The bank accepted those numbers. The bank testified as a witness for Trump. They said they did not lose money. The forms clearly stated these were made up numbers.
Fraud typically requires a victim. This is the only fraud case I know of that there is no victim. That is the point Mr wonderful is making. We are not punishing people when all parties were fine with the deal and there is no victim.
The people of the state are the victim. While everyone else (the people) has to play by the rules, Trump chose to not play by the rules. The act alone is the unlawful activity, not the result.
The state isn’t damaged. The bank is would be the victim and they said they were not damaged. They reviewed the data, made adjustment and issued the loans.
First time there has been a victimless fraud lawsuit.