If only we did all politics like this.
let’s be honest if the argument about anything is religious the person don’t have enough brain to debate anything
I tend to agree, but as I’ve gotten older I’ve got a bit less strict with thinking all religious people are idiots.
But I’m still pretty fervently of the mind that dogmatic monotheism is honestly one of the — if not the — worst thing that happened to humanity.
The intolerance of narrow monotheism is written in letters of blood across the history of man from the time when first the tribes of Israel burst into the land of Canaan. The worshippers of the one jealous God are egged on to aggressive wars against people of alien [beliefs and cultures]. They invoke divine sanction for the cruelties inflicted on the conquered. The spirit of old Israel is inherited by Christianity and Islam, and it might not be unreasonable to suggest that it would have been better for Western civilization if Greece had moulded it on this question rather than Palestine.
— Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_monotheism#Violence_in_monotheism
Similar mindset for me. You can have your religion, I don’t care.
But like masturbation, keep it private or with specific loved ones, keep it out of politics, or any public sector, and DEFINITELY keep it away from kids since they can’t consent.
Maybe that is what we need to do. “Decide” on certain moral questions based on best scientific data and our values and sound arguments and then stop debating them. Unless new scientific evidence challenges those moral edicts.
Somehow we keep going round in circles as a civilization.
And who exactly can be trusted as the centralized guide for human morality?
My vote is for the interviewer in this post.
But srsly, the person you replied to needs to understand just how slippery of a slope his argument is. There’s no such thing as 100% objective morality.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quis_custodiet_ipsos_custodes%3F
More debates need a simple “CAN IT”
More rough than “can it”. Pretty sure the closer translation would be Shut Up.
I agree with it.
Some debates don’t even need to happen anymore. No the earth isn’t flat. No trans people aren’t monsters trying to kill Jesus. No vaccines don’t turn you gay. No the world wasn’t created 6000 years ago.
We’ve legitimized too many morons in the world. Not everything is a debate, some things are just facts that need to be thought to the ignorant.
That’s fucking awesome
This is just a strawman.
If the debate is about reality, it’s about time the side opposing trans rights opens a scientific journal explaining the differences in the neuroanatomy of trans people and what are empirically proven methods to heal the distress provoked by gender dysphoria. Unless you actually don’t care about any of that, and the debate isn’t really about facts, but rather that the prospect that we may decide to accept that humans are a little more complicated than you had assumed personally annoys you.
Sure, sometimes it is discussed whether or not children can transition medically (p.s: it’s why they have to go through an army of doctors and psychologists), but to deny that the debate doesn’t revolve around if someone is happy or religion is ignorant.
Countless times I have seen people make the argument that transitioning has a high regret rate, countless of times I’ve seen people invoke religion and try to say being trans is a sin (what with the whole bible quote about men not wearing women clothing).
So when people debate about trans people, 90% of the time it is about someone’s happiness and getting in the way of it.
Genuinely a missing component of most debates:
Some questions have these things called “answers.”