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Vote however you want in the primary, get the tantrums and obstinence out of your system. If you don’t vote Biden in the general, you’re absolutely complicit.

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Agreed, people’s lives are on the line. Republicans have made it very clear they intend to kill more women, lgbtqia people, black people, and other minorities if they regain power.

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Name a more iconic duo than centrists and calling progressives children.

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If you’re calling the righteous indignation that is the response to Biden enabling a genocide a “tantrum”, you’re doing genocide apologia. If you ever wondered what you’d be doing during the Holocaust, you’re doing it right now.

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I’m calling refusing to vote for the only candidate in the race standing between us a fascist dictatorship because his politics don’t perfectly line up with your sensibilities a tantrum, and one which plays games with the future of American democracy.

If you have problems with Biden, by all means vote someone else in the primary. If you don’t show up to vote for him in November, you’re holding the door open for fascism, just as surely as the most dyed in the wool MAGA idiot.

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Again, if you have more contempt for the people protesting the genocide than the ones perpetrating it, you’re doing genocide apologia. If you’re spending more time bitching about righteous protests, maybe you should ask yourself why.

Biden could make it very easy to vote for him. The anger and protests didn’t come from nowhere. If he fails at his job so poorly that other left-leaning people don’t want to vote for him, that’s on him, not the voters.

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“if you don’t vote for Biden…”

DEMOCRACY! /s

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The alternative to Biden is disaster, so, yeah, pretty much.

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So far Biden has been a disaster

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When is Biden releasing his campaign platform other than “but Trump”?

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If the only choice in elections is which grade of evil is now acceptable we do not have democracy.

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No, actually I’m going to blame Israel, and specifically Netanyahu and his settler and genocidal fans.

Biden is between a rock and a hard place, no answer he chooses is actually ideal. That just happens sometimes in real life, which is not always easy. Sometimes every answer has some bad consequences.

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I fail to see how Israel or Netanyahu has any leverage over the USA to simply not veto a UN resolution that all other Western countries either support or abstain on.

A US vote against (without veto) or an abstention is entirely within his power to do.

Also, sidestepping Congress to deliver military aid to Israel is also not something that can be blamed on anyone else than Biden.

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I blame Israel because they’re the ones doing the killing. People like to point at us “enabling them”, and don’t get me wrong, I do not approve of the weapon shipments anymore. However, I am aware that if we cut them off, or if we passed the UN resolutions, the killing would not stop.

You do not need thousand pound bombs and 155mm artillery ammo to kill civilians, there are many, many ways to do that, most being even more brutal and indiscriminate.

The UN resolutions so far have been empty words. They “call for” a ceasefire, without actually putting anything in place to force one. Netanyahu is not going to listen to UN finger-wagging, so these would decrease what little leverage we have over Netanyahu without stopping the killing.

All the proposed “solutions” so far would simply remove US culpability, we would be less guilty. However, they would not actually save Gazan lives. Only an actual, enforced cease fire can do that. For that, you have to convince Netanyahu to stop. Somehow. Any ideas on how to actually do that?

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Biden chose to increase money and weapons to Israel, he is to blame. It’s time to abandon anyone advancing war.

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What’s the takeaway if Biden does really well here?

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Same takeaway I have with every election: I’m surrounded and ruled by maniacs who do not share my values.

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Single issue voters are the worst type of voters and show a massive misunderstanding of politics and in this case a massive misunderstanding of how global politics work. These same people would be pissed if we abandoned Israel and every Muslim nation genocide Israel. They would be protesting biden for not helping Israel. They also keep saying biden gave weapons without congress which isn’t true, he authorized sales of weapons to Israel,key word SALES. Israel bought weapons from us, he also did the same with Ukraine by asking a different country to buy weapons from the US as long as their old weapons went to Ukraine without congress. Is what’s happening awful but it’s hardly bidens fault it doesn’t stop.

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