Gretchen Whitmer responds to calls by some Democrats to vote ‘uncommitted’ in Michigan’s primary on Tuesday

Gretchen Whitmer, the Michigan governor, pushed back on calls to not vote for Joe Biden over his handling of the Israel-Gaza conflict, saying on Sunday that could help Trump get re-elected.

“It’s important not to lose sight of the fact that any vote that’s not cast for Joe Biden supports a second Trump term,” she said on Sunday during an interview on CNN’s State of the Union. “A second Trump term would be devastating. Not just on fundamental rights, not just on our democracy here at home, but also when it comes to foreign policy. This was a man who promoted a Muslim ban.”

Whitmer, who is a co-chair of Biden’s 2024 campaign, also said she wasn’t sure what to expect when it came to the protest vote.

Rashida Tlaib, a Democrat who is the only Palestinian-American serving in Congress, urged Democrats last week to vote “uncommitted” in Michigan’s 27 February primary.

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This is the best summary I could come up with:


Gretchen Whitmer, the Michigan governor, pushed back on calls to not vote for Joe Biden over his handling of the Israel-Gaza conflict, saying on Sunday that could help Trump get re-elected.

“It’s important not to lose sight of the fact that any vote that’s not cast for Joe Biden supports a second Trump term,” she said on Sunday during an interview on CNN’s State of the Union.

Tlaib’s sister, Layla Elabed, is the campaign manager for Listen to Michigan, the group that has been leading the effort to get people to vote uncommitted.

The group has the support of 30 elected officials across south-east Michigan, including Abdullah Hammoud, the mayor of Dearborn, which has a large Arab American population.

While Biden will easily win the Democratic primary there, Michigan is a key swing state in the November general election.

“We have left a very damaging impression based on what has been a wholly inadequate public accounting for how much the president, the administration and the country values the lives of Palestinians.


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It’s a fucking primary.

This is literally the only point in time we can try to drag Biden too the left, will we get him far enough that he stops being pro-genocide? Probably not, dude is all in on Israel and always has been.

But telling people they don’t even get to vote “not committed” in a fucking meaningless primary is something so undemocratic if you told me it would happen this primary I’d have bet millions on it being republicans.

But then again, I’d have bet billions on them being the ones to pull delegates for something the state party had zero control over.

Not holding Dems to standards may have already fucked the country for good.

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Is someone telling you you don’t “get” to vote how you want? Telling someone you disagree with their choice or that they’re dumb for voting a certain way is not at all stopping that person from voting how they want and not at all undemocratic

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you’re pro genocide

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No u.

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you clearly have a pro-trump agenda, as evidenced by your comment history…
you’re spam, and pro-genocide

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It’s a fucking primary

I don’t know why people don’t get this.

Since 2000 progressives have been told to vote for who you want in the primary and then hold your nose in the general.

Now we’re supposed to hold our nose in the primary, too?!

I don’t have enough clothespins for this bullshit.

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Since 2000 progressives have been told to vote for who you want in the primary and then hold your nose in the general.

NH went progressive over party favorite moderate the last two primaries they had that counted…

So this party the DNC said their votes count for nothing, then Biden withdrew and threw money at a write in campaign so the headlines would be “Biden wins even as a write in!”

And not:

“DNC just made NH primary meaningless for something only NH republican officials could change!”

They know this is just a primary.

They’re just conservatives deep down and give zero fucks lying and destroying democracy if they win. And it’s not enough to win, they demand 100% loyalty.

Just like trumpers.

It’s why Dem standards can’t just be “better than a Republican”.

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it’s why the democratic party is going to fracture.

Hopely only slightly after the republican party. But both are trying to be the last one standing, so to speak.

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There’s nothing in this article that indicates she’s talking about the primary vs the general election

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True. Which is just bad reporting

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The problem is Progressives aren’t offering up any other option. Who am I supposed to vote FOR this time around? “No one” isn’t much of a rallying cry.

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Why should they? the DNC will never allow a progressive to be the party candidate. which is why we didn’t have bernie in '16… like the VOTERS WANTED.

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I cannot remember an election where the incumbent got primaried. And even if we tried we’d be accused of hurting the establishment candidate’s chances in the general.

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Now we’re supposed to hold our nose in the primary, too?!

“Behave, or else you get the Orange Turd.” seems to be the message.

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Who is on the ballot that drives him left exactly? What’s the name?

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I’m not trying to defend the “pro genocide” thing at all, although I’m expecting to be down voted regardless, but…

Isn’t support for Israel over Gaza an American / western thing rather than specifically Biden?

Like is it reasonably possible to have a POTUS that wouldn’t support Israel?

I guess they could be more overt in their condemnation of Israel’s behaviour, but I’m not sure how meaningful that is.

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Isn’t support for Israel over Gaza an American / western thing rather than specifically Biden?

Biden has spent 50 years calling himself a Zionist and saying nothing will ever make him stop supporting Israel.

It’s hard to think anyone believes that’s normal…

Like is it reasonably possible to have a POTUS that wouldn’t support Israel?

Bernie and every other progressive.

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I think part of the problem is that people are so on edge with how close we are to democracy ending. And how fine, and even eager many are to move on to full fascism. It is a primary though. And what really matters is a commitment to defeat fascism in November.

However you don’t do yourself any favors acting like a teenage edge lord. Saying hyperbolic bs like pro-genocide etc etc etc. Biden’s actions on the front are absolutely questionable. Poor strategy wise considering Bibi isn’t going to listen to anyone. And just going to do whatever he wants. So all Biden is likely going to get out of it is a tarnished image. Even if we cut Israel off completely, something Biden can’t do himself. It wouldn’t stop Bibi the butcher. But then it’s always easier to call hyperbolic names than it is to come up with actual working solutions.

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Alternate title: Michigan governor explains first past the post voting. People unhappy.

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This is a primary. Voting for Biden won’t make it less likely that Trump will be elected.

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Neoliberals never let a silly thing like facts get in their way.

They’re just republicans who don’t want the cool kids to hate them.

The fucked up part is theyre the only other option this election, and they know it.

It’s not good enough for them that Biden is better than trump, they want 100% support for all the fucked up shit Biden is doing as well.

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they want 100% support for all the fucked up shit Biden is doing as well

Who are you even talking about?

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And they yell at us for not putting up with their putrid shit. Whatever happened to “push Biden left”

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So they’re not even the official candidates yet? Just how long is your election cycle?

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4 years.

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Yea, neither Biden nor Trump have the official party endorsement yet. Presidential elections in the US usually last between two and five years depending on how you define them.

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Primaries are rigged there’s no real choice

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General election is in November. Get comfortable, it’s gonna be a while.

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The news starts talking about the next election the day after the election so our election cycle is permanent at this point.

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Biden supports genocide. Centrists happy.

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So lets vote towards the furthering of the mistake of the last nazi war, or contribute to the next one.

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Super confusing headline. I understood it as Michigan governor says [she’s] not voting for Biden over Gaza war [and she] “supports a second Trump term”

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