Former top officials from Donald Trump’s administration are warning he is likely to use a second term to overhaul the nation’s spy agencies in a way that could lead to an unprecedented level of politicization of intelligence.
Damn, I guess the Democrats should put up a strong candidate.
The way I am going to go into this election is to vote 3rd party. If trump wins, he will either have a very underwhelming term and lose his fanbase or completely destroy the government and break the status quo. Assuming he goes the extreme route, the US will either rise up and competely reform the government or we had no hope of that ever happening in the first place. I’m tired of voting for the lesser evil.
Edit: Disliking this comment is cool and all, but I’d like to actually hear why people disagree. I am willing to change my mind if an adequate reason is provided. For anyone saying there will be domestic pain if Trump is elected, I am living in the US as well. This will also open the eyes of people who think politics are separate from their lives.
Edit2: Thanks for responding, I really appreciate the given perspectives. I am not a politics major, so I know there is always more I can learn.
Edit3: Thank you to those who provided legitimate reasoning and sources. It looks like the only viable option is to avoid a repeat of history, where the minority Nazi party ended up running Germany, by voting for Genocide Joe. God I hate this bs political system.
I hate to break it to you, but there will be no post-Trump revolution. Should Trump be elected, the GOP has already released their plan for what the first year of his 2nd term would look like. Essentially, kiss any semblance of a democracy goodbye. A uprising against the US government by the people? Good luck. The US government and military has thermal imaging, predator drones, nukes, and weaponry you haven’t even dreamt of. If Trump has that in his possession, it’s game over. A vote for a 3rd party is a vote for the popular candidate, which in this case is Trump.
I wonder if “the lesser evil” will seem so bad when Trump has removed all rights from non-white, non-male people.
The way I am going to go into this election is to vote 3rd party
That’s just voting for Trump with extra steps.
If trump wins, he will either have a very underwhelming term and lose his fanbase or completely destroy the government and break the status quo
Nothing here has any bearing in reality or past precedence. It won’t matter if Trump “wins” by one vote or twenty votes, his behavior will be exactly the same (and the people pulling his strings will enact their plans regardless.). He certainly acted like he had a “mandate” during his first term despite losing the popular vote, and he’s not a complex force to understand- he will absolutely be worse the second time.
Assuming he goes the extreme route, the US will either rise up and competely reform the government or we had no hope of that ever happening in the first place.
GTFO here with that accelerationist bullshit. You don’t like Biden? Fine- you’re free to. Hold your nose and vote for him anyway, because things are going to get a lot worse for a lot of people if you don’t. The US system isn’t set up to allow people to vote ideologically, so we have to vote strategically. The sooner American voters grow up and accept that fact, the sooner we can start working to actually fix the system.
A third party vote is a vote for whoever you hate most.
In first past the post voting, like we have today, you don’t vote for a candidate. You vote against the candidate you hate the most. Only the two leading parties matter. This is a fact, not an opinion. Evidence in the link below.
So if you really hate Biden the most, and you vote third party, you’re effectively handing Biden a vote.
Here’s a short cute video that helped me wrap my brain around it. https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo?si=lK4IKv2MF4uXI6UI
Assuming he goes the extreme route, the US will either rise up and competely reform the government or we had no hope of that ever happening in the first place.
So, accelerationism. Which does not work.
I really, really, appreciate seeing someone not dig their heels in at the sight of downvotes and actually continuing the conversation to learn about the other perspective.
Kudos to you, and thank you for reminding me why I hate Reddit and other social media where opinions are unchangeable and there is no grey between black and white.
Keep repeating that b.s until you believe it in your heart. Still won’t be true, but you’ll be a good parrot who deserves his cracker.
I mean here is some evidence: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4470956-biden-trump-harris-newsom-poll/
You mean like the incumbent president who is far and away objectively better than Trump?
I would hope that the Democrats have someone better than a president that, not only ignores the genocide going on in Gaza, but is actively contributing to the continuation of that genocide.
Edit: This is the main reason why I am so reluctant to consider voting for Biden.
You are a fucking idiot. Russia has you by the nuts. So if democrats lose and Trump wins and continues the genocide then what smart ass?
Rock > Biden < hard place.
Israel being a mess the US is largely responsible for there was no chance of condemning them outright. That country has been pampered and enriched by Uncle Sam for 70 years. Anything short of complete solidarity would have incurred the wrath of all and sundry.
Where are the assassin-spies then? If they’re so nervous… do something about it? We all know you can. NSA, if you’re listening…
Maybe they could do something
Nah, they only do something when there’s a prospect of a socialist democracy rejecting American corporate interests… because the military industrial complex and entire intelligence apparatus is a tool of capitalism.
Corporations aka “the economy” = “national security”
Man, given what the intelligence agencies are known for, I don’t exactly want them interfering in US elections.
Ditto the intelligent community.
(Reads article) Wait…remember when the Deep State was called conspiracy bullshit?
