139 points

They’re going to enshitify every single aspect of our lives.

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Luckily, at least for now, most people can sail the high seas, or hit the secondary market, or cook the things they want in order to avoid the price gouging and enshittification. You can get ten frozen burger patties at the grocery store fairly economically in most of the country and then spice and cook them up yourself.

When Trump is reelected in November I expect it to get much worse and very fast.

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15 points

most people can (…) cook the things they want

That’s far from true. Millions live in food deserts and the working poor often don’t have the money and/or energy for it after working extreme hours for atrociously low wages.

And that’s not even taking into account those of us who are unable to cook even simple dishes for ourselves due to disability.

When Trump is reelected in November I expect it to get much worse and very fast.

That’s probably true of literally everything…

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If people didn’t keep paying for it, it wouldn’t work.
Unfortunately it’s a sound business model because people will absolutely fork over the money regardless of how much they bitch about it in the process.
The enshitification will continue indefinitely until people stop buying the shit.

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72 points

LOL, the asshole CEO called it an “enhanced feature”.

I’d say go for it, but if Wendy’s does it, everyone else will, so the likelihood that it will hurt their business is unlikely.

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40 points

They’re outright accepting less customers in favor of those willing to pay higher prices.

That’s great for a quarter, maybe a year, maybe 5. At what point does it catch up and you’ve trained everyone to stop eating fast food because you wanted to charge more than people can dedicate to food?

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34 points

They’re outright accepting less customers in favor of those willing to pay higher prices.

This is exactly it. I have seen folks saying we are entering a new kind of economy: a kind of “whale economy”. After seeing it work for mobile apps and games, other normal companies are wising up to the fact that your revenue will be the same if you charge 10 times what you were and lose 9/10 of your customers as a result… but your expenses will be lower. less labor, less equipment, less materials, less time. The 1/10 who stay and pay the high prices out themselves as “whales”, the people who probably have enough money to never care and will probably just keep spending even if the prices keep going up and up and up.

The majority of us are about to become low value customers… and therefore, not have easy access to common goods and services any longer. This will make perfect short term sense to each company doing this, but will promptly collapse what’s left of our economy into ruin.

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COVID and recent financial policies changed our economy from “charge what it costs + a reasonable profit margin” to “what’s it worth to you?”

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21 points

Fast food is already almost as expensive as regular restaurant food… the only benefit is the drive through for those in a hurry travelling through town. If it gets any more expensive it will be easier to just phone in your order at a regular restaurant for pick up.

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I cannot fathom how no one else sees this. They’re trading low-value customers for high-value customers. Sometimes this makes sense. I did it when I had a little PC repair business. Low-value customers were a PITA and didn’t make me any money, not worth my time.

But maybe they’re smarter than you and I? Lemmy tells me cheap fast food is a right, as if there’s no other choice. If that’s how people are thinking and acting, instead of shying away from fast food prices? Fuck 'em. Let them pay.

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8 points

PC repair is a low volume, high touch, high skill business. If you set aside a single $100 customer for a $500 one, it can work since both exist.

Hamburgers of the Wendy’s grade are a volume and convenience game. For every thousand $4 customers, can they replace them with 667 $6 customers?

I’ve noticed an interesting phenomenon in the last couple years. The cheapest options and biggest chains ramped their prices much faster than the places a notch or two better. The gap has closed enough that suddenly those “notch or two better” places are more competitive than before-- if it will be $50 instead of $30 to take the family to Wendy’s, why not stretch to $65 for get Five Guys or a local place instead.

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5 points

Or I could just eat at a proper restaurant.

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4 points

I think we need to seperate the ability for a corporation to make decisions of its own free will from the notion of fairness and equity for a society which allowed a franchise like Wendy’s to be created. They’re giving many of their supporters the middle finger after thinking they found a winning lottery ticket.

I can understand being pissed off about it as someone who isn’t rich, but I also understand it’s a system I have no control over other than what I choose to buy myself. I won’t support Wendys if they want to choose profits over people. It’s sad to see more of the world turn into a heartless corporate hellhole.

I personally hope they got their numbers wrong and they fail.

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1 point

Do you really think the world is ready for a luxury fast food chain?

Shit I remember when Wendy’s had the best dollar menu of all the chains…

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and you’ve trained everyone

Training is a great, important word here. There’s a huge lag between setting prices and having them affect your business. Most people will try a new place once, regardless of the price. The first time they go they’ll judge the price by the style of restaurant. It’s not until the second time they’ll factor the price into their decision. Companies only care about “training” when it goes the other way, when it’s a good reputation they can liquidate through enshittification.

When they’re on the downside of training all they think about is “MONEY NOW” while they’re effectively scamming their customers and slowly destroying their customer base.

There’s a hot chicken place near me that’s having exactly this problem. The downtown, novel location in the middle of the walking market (a tourist attraction) was a bit expensive, but good. They expanded out to the suburbs, kept the downtown prices, and no longer give sweet tea for free. And somehow they’re surprised that less than a year after opening they’re lucky to have three customers at once. I’ll give you a hint. You’re charging $10 for a chicken breast on a slice of wonder bread. Chicken used to be popular because it was cheap.

https://hotchickentakeover.com/menu/

Compare to this 2005 Popeye’s commercial. 11 pieces of chicken for $10. Not a single breast. Look me in the eye and tell me prices have actually risen 11x in 20 years.

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4 points

Alternate timeline: Surge priced fast-food becomes a status symbol. People buy used Wendy’s packaging in order to hide their homemade food and not be made fun of.

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4 points

No CEO gives a shit about anything beyond the next quarter.

And it’s driving our world economy into the ground.

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And it’s driving our world economy into the ground.

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I agree it sucks. But I can understand the rationale. At peak times, if people try to go to Wendy’s, and it’s too busy, they go somewhere else. At this point the demand is higher than supply. Clearly increasing cost will create more profit.

Long term they are probably hoping that people decide to not all come in a peak times, and the peak is more spread out. This way lines are never long enough for people to just say fuck this and then leave. Less lost sales = more profit.

In reality I can see people just not going, so I agree with you that long term they see less sales. But honestly who really knows, people can be pretty irrational.

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I am so MASSIVELY angrily fuckdamn violently TIRED of CEOs constantly committing capital violence and telling us it is for our own good.

I’m about half a hair away from dropping everything and moving up to our family cabin as a naked hermit living off the land.

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56 points

Enshittification will continue as long as people still buy their shit there.

The only language these fuckers understand is money. Dont buy their shit and it will turn around quickly.

But if you keep going there, and keep going with the new shot they come up with they will keep doing this shit until you stop.

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16 points

How many people are buying 24 packs of Coca-Cola at $14 when it used to be $7 just five years ago.

I’ve cut way back and only buy during sales. It’s not that I can’t afford it. It’s that if I do continue to buy, then they’ll start charging $21/case. The price will keep going up until people react.

What is it going to take for people to just refuse to pay these prices?

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10 points

I actually quit drinking soda because of that. I was spending 20-30 bucks a week on Coke, and when it hit me that I could just not drink coke and save almost $1500 more a year, it was an easy choice.

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43 points

why limit opportunistic gouging to airline tickets and private taxis? You want food now? Pay extra. You want hospital care now? Pay extra. You want a fire truck or an ambulance or the police now? Best not be poor.

Honestly how was *any *of this ever legal?

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6 points

Isn’t this kind of the situation in America already? With people fearing bankruptcy from ambulance rides and all. Oh, and tipping for restaurants/delivery services like uber eats and instacart. While it’s going to the worker instead of the corporation (hopefully), I’ve read enough stories about food being held hostage unless a tip is given.

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42 points

How about we try it with wages too, Wendy’s? It’s a busy time and you REALLY need me to finish a project? Well, my pay just surged, so pay up or come back later when I have nothing to do. How’s that for an “enhanced feature” you greedy fucking pricks?

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Don’t give them ideas. They’ll do it, and the lunch rush is the only time fast food workers will make $15 for a single hour. The rest of the time will be $7.25 and used to justify the ridiculously low minimum wage. "But we usually pay more than that. We need the flexibility or we’d have to cut hours!*

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