spoilers ahead I felt like the character conflict arcs were contrived and ultimately the idea of learning a language makes you a pre-cog fell flat for me. In science fiction, the big idea goes ‘woo!’ or the characters go ‘woo!’ but in the case of Arrival, nothing really went ‘woo!’
But maybe I’m wrong - what was I missing about Arrival?
Arrival presents some good philosophical questions, and does so in an interesting setting. The top questions are:
- How does language affect our perception?
- If you knew your fate, would you still do things the same way?
As such it’s qualitatively a good Sci-Fi film. Should it be ranked as one of the best? I don’t know, and honestly I don’t care, because such rankings are always subjective.
How does language affect our perception?
Philip K. Dick is famous for saying ‘reality is that in which, when you stop believing in it, does not go away.’ Languages, perceptions, are still materially beliefs and changing beliefs doesn’t change reality. I wanted to see HOW the language allowed you to perceive time and it never got there.
I don’t think some pseudo science jargon about tachyons in her delta waves would have enhanced the story. The how isn’t important, what matters is the way it changes her life and how she deals with it. It’s an exploration of the Sapir-Worf hypothesis but given more of an emotional tinge. I also loved the design of the aliens and the way they living outside linear time affected their culture and personalities.
I don’t think some pseudo science jargon about tachyons in her delta waves would have enhanced the story.
Its not. It doesnt try to give a hard science explanation, it gives an explanation of perspective that offers actual insight. Ted Chiang doesn’t write hard science fiction, but it’s very well thought out science fiction, imo.
So, I think if there’s an issue with Arrival, it’s the whiplash of using a hard[ish] sci-fi structure to address the first question, then zoom straight into the second. We’re given a pretty solid, small story about how we might plausibly handle first contact, and specifically the linguistic aspect of it, but the truth that comes out of it is that it was language itself which is the key to transcending space and time, and all so we can ruminate on the philosophical equivalent of “Should we love our pets when we know they live shorter, smaller lives than us?”
It’s quite the flex for the movie we were watching, and feels a little unearned. There was definitely a little bit of “I’m stoned and this is deep”. As a dog owner, I at least appreciate that the answer was “yes,” LOL.
I do still think it’s good and it was very well done. Many movies wouldn’t even be worth this discussion.
I think it’s a good Sci-Fi film, but we’re more interested in a good sci-fi movie.
Ya know?
In Arrival, the ‘woo’ is basically in the last few minutes of the movie, when it’s revealed that the mission only lasted moments but the audio recorder captured hours. If you blinked, you missed it.
For me, personally, Arrival ranked up there with Interstellar.
I’m of the opinion that you have to give older movies (pre-2000’s) some latitude. Writing, continuity, and character development all evolved substantially after Arrival came out.
I think you might be talking about Contact, not Arrival? Contact was the one where there was a mission through a wormhole machine at the end that had a discrepancy in how long it lasted based on how much static the audio recorder collected. Arrival was the one with the linguist trying to figure out how the language of the visiting aliens worked.
You’re absolutely right. Got my one-word-scifi-movies mixed up. Thanks for the correction. I went ahead and deleted my comment. Apologies for the confusion.
I thought Arrival was a good spin on time-travel. The information travels backward in time, but it is resolved - a consistent timeline results (as far as we witness it, at least). Good sequel could be to fast forward whatever it was . . . 3 millennia and see the intelligent cockroaches from Earth arriving to save the hecapods after the knowledge the hecapods bequeathed led the humans to promptly self-annihilate, opening the path for cockroach evolution.
Off topic, but this here really hit home for me (not a linguist student but someone plenty interested).
yeah I was pretty meh on it too, wish I could find more scifi movies as good as Contact was