Former President Donald Trump was indicted for an unprecedented third time on August 1, adding another set of serious federal charges to the mounting legal issues he faces.

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Bet nothing is going to come of it, just like last time.

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We’ll see. Now he has to go to actual trial, and it’s in DC.

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What do you mean “just like last time?” That hasn’t even gone to trial yet.

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The last time he was indicted? This is the 3rd time.

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do you know how the courts work here? Indictment is pne of the very first steps.then comes all the pretrial stuff, where we are at now with trumps charges. And then comes the actual trial.

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Correct. “The last time he was indicted” hasn’t come to a resolution yet, nor will it until at least next year. Saying nothing came of it is a dumbass take, to put it gently.

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Maybe they mean the impeachment trial, but if so that’s a bad take.

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These are weighty charges, Doomsayer

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The next republican president or governor in states where he is convicted at state level will just pardon everything.

The constitution, rule of law, and will of the people means nothing to people who just want power.

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13 points

This is a federal case

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No it’s a clear case for increasing our education budget 😉

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Trump will be barred from running, handing the election to another Republican, who will pardon Trump on day one. There, spoiled the next year and a half of American politics for you.

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He can’t be pardoned of state crimes.

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The only state crimes are the original indictments for perjury, which if you read the article, you will see those are the least compelling charges. The last two sets of indictments are from the DoJ and are considered very sound.

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No. The crimes of fake electors go to specific states. There’s federal and state crimes here.

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23 points

Georgia is about to enter the chat.

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I’m not sure which other Republican candidates could really step up. Aside from Trump there’s DeSantis, who seems to be imploding and I think hates Trump anyway, Chris Christie (who called him a ‘One Man Crime Wave’ lol) and most of the others I haven’t even heard of before.

But there is also Mike Pence who is truly a wild card - there’s a reasonable chance Trump literally tried to have him killed and yet he still defends him for some reason - so if anyone is bonkers enough to make it to the White House and then set Trump loose, it’d probably be him.

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I find Christie refreshingly straight forward compared to most GOP turd buckets.

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I just want Christie to take second place because he and Trump hate each other. Trump almost got Christie killed by inviting him to the White House even though Trump knew he had COVID and Christie ended up almost dying in the hospital because of it. And, of course, Trump hates Christie because all feelings are reciprocal when you’re Trump.

They would destroy each other and I would make popcorn.

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10 points

None of these charges carry with them the barring of running for office. Sedition isn’t in the indictment.

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None of this bars him from running.

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He can’t be barred from running. In fact even if convicted he could still be President because he’s been charged with obstruction not sedition. Not a lawyer etc, but I think it’s pretty clear.

The Republican Party could refuse to let him be the nominee but they know what would just cause him to run independent and split the right-wing vote so they’ll support him because they want power more than anything else.

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@visak @dunning_cougar

You’re right.

And that sucks, because now the invisible line has been crossed not one of the parties will create laws against it happening again.

'Murica - land of the fraud, home of the deceived

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2 points

heheheh, projection projection projection.

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What do you mean by this? Like the “lock her up” thing was projecting?

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his constant complaining about the election being stolen was what i meant about projection, but i guess that other thing works too lol

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Trump pushed the big lie that the election was stolen. Trump lost in the courts[1](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/25/us/elections/trump-campaign-lawsuits.html) including the Supreme Court.[2](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55283024) Then he tried to pressure state officials.[3](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/01/03/trump-pressured-georgia-election-official-call-washington-post-report-says/4119948001/) He tried to pressure Pence.[4](https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/05/trump-pressures-pence-election-results-455069)

So what does Trump do after exhausting all nonviolent methods of overturning the election? He turns to his supporters and lights them up making inflammatory statements such as;

  • We are going to fight for the survival of the nation.

  • Now is not the time to retreat, its to fight harder.

  • We will never give in, never back down, never surrender.

  • We will fight like hell.

  • You have to get your people to fight.

He primed them for weeks.

State officials had started getting death threats weeks before the attempted insurrection following the general election.[5](https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-transition-updates/2020/12/01/940961602/someones-going-to-get-killed-ga-official-blasts-gop-silence-on-election-threats) Trump saw first hand what violence was being created as his supporters rioted and vandalized black churches in Washington back in December.[6](https://www.thestar.com/news/world/us/2020/12/13/black-churches-vandalized-four-stabbed-dozens-arrested-at-pro-trump-rallies-in-washington.html)

Trump didn’t stop his incitement after the initial violence, he got more specific. He told his supporters how, when, and where. He gave them 18 days notice inviting them to the rally telling them to be there, that it will be wild.[7](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/capitol-mob-trump-supporters.html) And on the day of the insurrection Trump told his supporters to march on the Capitol and fight like hell.

Following the riot Trump continued to promote the big lie that had incited the insurrection. After the mob was dispersed, Trump praised and sympathized with the mob in a video he released, claiming once again that the election had been stolen.[8](https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-tells-rioters-i-know-how-you-feel-draws-bipartisan-condemnation-11609977209) Then he praised the insurrection in a tweet after the mob had been dispersed. He told his mob to remember Jan. 6 forever. He said that he loved the insurrectionists and that the violent mob were special people.


  1. New York Times - Over 30 Trump Campaign Lawsuits Have Failed. Some Rulings Are Scathing.

  2. BBC - US Supreme Court rejects Trump-backed bid to overturn election

  3. USA Today - Trump is heard on audiotape pressuring Georgia secretary of state to ‘find’ votes to overturn Biden’s win

  4. Politico - Trump pressures Pence to throw out election results — even though he can’t

  5. NPR - ‘Someone’s Going To Get Killed’: Georgia Republican Official Blasts GOP Silence On Election Threats

  6. Toronto Star - Black churches vandalized, four stabbed, dozens arrested at pro-Trump rallies in Washington

  7. New York Times - 'Be There. Will Be Wild!’: Trump All but Circled the Date: Inside Trump supporters’ online echo chambers, the chaos of Jan. 6 could be seen coming. People posted their plans to come to Washington — and showed the weapons they would carry.

  8. Wall Street Journal - Trump Tells Rioters, ‘I Know How You Feel,’ Draws Bipartisan Condemnation


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Please accept this Official Lemmy Gold® for the best post I’ve seen so far on Lemmy:

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Poppinkream is on Lemmy! Good to see you here.

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False equivalency fallacy.

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Thank you for continuing your hard work pk

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This guy brought the receipts!

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It’s PK, they only have receipts.

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Damn, always good to see PK.

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Great to see you over here! So happy. Thanks for the great post.

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sees citations in comments

Could it be? PoppinKREAM on lemmy?!

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Pardon my unculturedness but who is PoppinKREAM?

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He posted tons of these news roundups with citations on Reddit.

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Should mention also Trump pressed the capitol police not tk use metal detectors on the crowd and his supporters cached weapons a nearby hotel.

This was part of their “1776 plan” to seize control of government buildings including the Supreme Court and State Depsrtment, not only the Capitol.

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Yeah, and his horrible remark about that:

'I don’t fucking care that they have weapons. They’re not here to hurt me

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PoppinKREAM!

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My “favorite” but was when he heard that some of them had weapons that were denied access, and he angrily told his staff to let the weapons into the capital, because they weren’t coming to hurt him.

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