Former President Donald Trump was indicted for an unprecedented third time on August 1, adding another set of serious federal charges to the mounting legal issues he faces.
What a dingdong he is. I hope he spends the rest of his life in jail.
And followed by Don Jr and co asking people to contribute to the “take back America” fund, and if you donate over $1,000 you will get 100,000 Trump bucks
And the exchange rate of tump bucks to stanley nickels is approximately the same as the ratio of unicorns to leprechauns.
I know this is a common sentiment amongst a lot of people, but the reality is he will never see prison time before he dies of old age. He will do everything in his power to draw it out and when he can’t he will flee the country
It was “common knowledge” that he wouldn’t ever be charged too. The Senate and Mike Pence were pissed at him because he made them look weak. That’s why no one is really defending him right now. He has so many charges that people are going to abandon him just so they don’t have to answer questions about the cases.
Remember the OJ trial? This is the former president in three courtrooms (and counting!). It’s going to make him look so guilty.
I wonder though, everyone keep saying no prison because of the SS, ex-president and all, but what mecanism would actually prevent the court from going there? Like, if the judge goes for prison or death penalty, what is gonna happen exactly? What branch of the government, and who exactly would block it, assuming the judge gives no fucks?
It’s not possible for him to receive the death penalty for these charges, the max is 20 years per count. On top of that, the fed doesn’t have the death penalty anymore, as far as I understand.
That being said, it is very possible he will go to prison in some fashion. Of course he will never be with the gen pop, but just because he has an SS detail doesn’t mean he can’t go to prison. Also, it could be possible to strip him of the detail, but I’m pretty sure that will be figured out if the time comes.
Trump will be barred from running, handing the election to another Republican, who will pardon Trump on day one. There, spoiled the next year and a half of American politics for you.
The only state crimes are the original indictments for perjury, which if you read the article, you will see those are the least compelling charges. The last two sets of indictments are from the DoJ and are considered very sound.
He can’t be barred from running. In fact even if convicted he could still be President because he’s been charged with obstruction not sedition. Not a lawyer etc, but I think it’s pretty clear.
The Republican Party could refuse to let him be the nominee but they know what would just cause him to run independent and split the right-wing vote so they’ll support him because they want power more than anything else.
You’re right.
And that sucks, because now the invisible line has been crossed not one of the parties will create laws against it happening again.
'Murica - land of the fraud, home of the deceived
I’m not sure which other Republican candidates could really step up. Aside from Trump there’s DeSantis, who seems to be imploding and I think hates Trump anyway, Chris Christie (who called him a ‘One Man Crime Wave’ lol) and most of the others I haven’t even heard of before.
But there is also Mike Pence who is truly a wild card - there’s a reasonable chance Trump literally tried to have him killed and yet he still defends him for some reason - so if anyone is bonkers enough to make it to the White House and then set Trump loose, it’d probably be him.
I find Christie refreshingly straight forward compared to most GOP turd buckets.
I just want Christie to take second place because he and Trump hate each other. Trump almost got Christie killed by inviting him to the White House even though Trump knew he had COVID and Christie ended up almost dying in the hospital because of it. And, of course, Trump hates Christie because all feelings are reciprocal when you’re Trump.
They would destroy each other and I would make popcorn.
Bet nothing is going to come of it, just like last time.
What do you mean “just like last time?” That hasn’t even gone to trial yet.
Correct. “The last time he was indicted” hasn’t come to a resolution yet, nor will it until at least next year. Saying nothing came of it is a dumbass take, to put it gently.
do you know how the courts work here? Indictment is pne of the very first steps.then comes all the pretrial stuff, where we are at now with trumps charges. And then comes the actual trial.
There are many who choose not to celebrate until the Orange One has had “actual repercussions”.
Me? Well…
To each their own. 🥂🍻🍸🍷
Yep, I get why some would be pessimistic after years of nothing happenning to the man, but this is kinda it. I mean, what else do people expect, no due process and straight to prison? This is the worst actual outcome for him right now, and possibly the best for America. I figure he could be considered a flight risk and be put in jail pending process, but I figure this would be a worst outcome for America, considering his deathcult. You’re 2 fox news articles away from them claiming be died in jail and resurrected like Jesus.
The Jan 6 stuff might not stick, and even if it does his supporters have plenty of mental hoops they can jump through to justify.
Those classified documents though… he ain’t getting out of any of those. He fucked up big time with that bullshit. He’s going down for it hard.
I just keep imagining that he’s currently crying into a big mac right now. “Do you think they have Diet Coke in prison?”
To each their own indeed. If you want see this as cause to celebrate who am I to rain on your parade, I truly hope you have the right of it.
I’m just exhausted from all of the "final nail in the coffin"s this guy has had. Ive gotten excited for some actual justice just to be disappointed 1 too many times I guess. Even now, any federal charges are gonna just get pardoned as the first act of the next republican president for some quick and easy brownie points amongst their base.
The only hope for lasting consequences is realistically Georgia and even ignoring that they are pretty deeply purple, the Secret Service has pretty explicitly said they will not allow Trump to go to prison… Now I personally am of the belief that they can pound sand since they have no jurisdiction over this. However I do not get to make the call, and as stated above I have been let down too many times…
Maybe this is actually it and maybe I’m just too jaded and not seeing the big picture… I just can’t bring myself to be optimistic anymore man
the Secret Service has pretty explicitly said they will not allow Trump to go to prison…
Woah woah woah woah, did they say this? A cursory Google search only came back with results stating he won’t lose their protection in prison, not that they won’t allow him to be put away.
As I have the right to celebrate all the recent unprecedented actions by DOJ (I must concede that DOJ dragged their feet on a lot of this, and that it’s pretty clear there’s a two-tiered system for the rich “important” types and the rest of us plebs), you certainly have the right to doubt that this all will lead to anything significant. I have nothing to support my belief that the Orange One has finally reached the “FO” stage of FAFO but the indictments that have occurred thus far. However, I will say with confidence that these indictments aren’t entirely meaningless (particularly the docs case), and that their unprecedented nature should be celebrated. The DOJ has taken steps that have literally never been taken before in our history as a country (the indictment of a former president), and while some might say justice delayed is justice denied, I still think that a slow response is better than no response at all.
That all said, I understand feeling skeptical or even hopeless at this point (I certainly felt that way after Impeachment Trial 2). Here’s hoping, though, that we’ll at least get to witness justice finally being served and that any pardons will be moot (I mean, c’mon, the guy’s old!) if a Republican president is elected again any time soon!
It’s possible I’m misremembering. I thought in their initial statement about his not losing protection while incarcerated they had mentioned that it would be impossible to protect him while he’s in an open cell block but perhaps that was my dumb lizard brain saying the quiet part out loud. Either way I don’t think they would just let that happen without significant uproar.
Idk maybe I can allow myself to feel an ounce of optimism. I do like the idea of something actually good happening for once lol
When he is behind bars then I’ll celebrate. Until then. The battle for our democracy continues….
Even after he is behind bars. Crazy as it sounds, he can run for President from prison.
Not very effectively, but he can run.
If he wins, he pardons himself from federal crimes then uses his powers as Commander in Chief to break himself out of prison for state crimes, thereby creating the ultimate constitutional crisis and tearing the country apart.
One presidential candidate got 3.4% (more than all 3rd party candidates in 2020 combined) of the vote (over 1million votes) as a third party candidate while in prison in 1920.
Weird. I’ve heard of Americans losing their right to vote when imprisoned and yet they could run for office?
It’ll be ~5 years before all appeals are exhausted. I’d be shocked to see that he ever eats a final conviction, and any Republican president will pardon him, living or dead.
And, even if he is convicted and not pardoned, the functional challenges of managing Secret Service protection in a white-collar prison would be daunting, not to mention that his SS detail seems to have been easily corrupted to lie for him. The SS leadership, a locus of supreme bootlickers, would likely tell an inquiring judge that it’s too difficult to protect him in any penal institution for white-collar criminals, which will force the court to choose house arrest at most.
So, it’s probable that he’ll never serve a day in jail or prison.
Also there is a VERY high chance he just straight up dies before he goes to prison, or even before the court date. Which might be the worst possible scenario, as the right wing crazies will go fucking ballistic with conspiracy theories blaming the deep state or the clintons or whoever the current boogeyman is and we will literally never hear the end of it
