188 points

Google photos and apple have been doing it for years too, they’re like we found this person 50 times in your photo collection, why don’t you name them?

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Apple, afaik, used to be doing this on-device rather than in the cloud. Not quite sure about the situation today.

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22 points

thats if u trust them

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I don’t. Corps gonna corp, if they can. But I’ve checked this using all the development, networking, and energy monitoring tools at my disposal and apple’s e2e and on-device guarantee does appear to hold. For now.

Still, those who can should audit periodically, even if they’re only doing it for the settlement.

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6 points

They were inferencing a cnn on a mobile device? I have no clue but that would be costly battery wise at least.

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They’ve been doing ML locally on devices for like a decade. Since way before all the AI hype. They’ve had dedicated ML inference cores in their chips for a long time too which helps the battery life situation.

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This is why it’s worth the time to set up Immich.

It even has the same kind of AI object and face recognition as in Google Photos, but it’s your own cloud setup and self-hosted software, so all of the data is entirely yours and nobody else’s. It’s downright strange to think of those things as actual features and not privacy violations.

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Yeah it really bothers me that they’re not asking you to compromise only your data, they want you to give them info on your friends/family too (who obviously didn’t agree to the terms and conditions). Thanks for shouting out an alternative.

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23 points

Amazon asked me to use their photos app to get a $20 gift certificate last week. I uploaded one photo, got the bonus money, deleted the app and used it to help buy a new monitor.

Sometimes these things can be turned into a win.

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So what you are saying is that you gave Amazon access to your device for 20$? Doesn’t sound like a good deal to me.

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11 points

and what would “access to your device” be (assuming this is android)?

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6 points

apps are sandboxed. if all they did was upload one pic, what access did amazon really get? I’d do that for $20.

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79 points

Lmao, so fucking true

It’s like tricking a kid into eating their vegetables

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93 points

Except vegetables are good for you.

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69 points

That’s just what Big Vegetable wants you to think

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26 points

Big Vegetable will be the name of my next Stardew Valley farm.

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14 points

That sounds like something the Anti-Vegetable Coalition terrorists would say

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31 points

Keeping in mind that the “training data” is also the “recognition database”

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96 points

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OP called out training data specifically, like that was the real problem.

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I think OP said training data, but meant recognition database. In a way, it’s both, but they’re talking about the same thing you are

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1 point

Why did I read it as “Y’all so stupid”?

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Tencent isn’t the overlord of image generation lmao. This is using people’s justified fears of China and surveillance to make a false comparison to image generation. All you’re doing is giving more power to companies and states that will abuse it while limiting its use in open source contexts.

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47 points

How about we just not use people’s personal identities for image generation at all?

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How about we just not let any drawings or paintings be made of others at all? I’m all for disallowing things like AI edited porn without consent but you can’t arbitrarily apply one set of rules to image generation by computer and another to one done by hand when their outputs are fundamentally the same.

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One is theft and an infringement of privacy for nefarious ends and the other is a painting. There’s a world of difference between agreeing to let someone paint you and a corporation using your data to train AI. Spinning this basic reality into sinophobia is mind boggling. There are people in this thread shitting on Google for the same thing. Would you call it amerophobic to criticize Google for the same shit? Of course you wouldn’t

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you can’t arbitrarily apply one set of rules to image generation by computer and another to one done by hand when their outputs are fundamentally the same.

Why not? The arbitrating factor is the people involved in making the image. The inputs.

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🤱shhhhhhhhhhh drink your milk

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