After Israel killed seven aid workers in Gaza, the US says it has not found any incidents of Israel violating international humanitarian law in the past six months. An Al Jazeera probe concluded the World Central Kitchen vehicles were deliberately hit.

55 points

i knew biden would be disappointing but fuck… not “incredibly horrible”

so, now the election is between incredibly horrible and unimaginably worse…

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Love that americans are still worried about elections of all things as if anything other than organized violence will stop a capitalist government from committing genocide.

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whatever country you’re pretending to be from

The american chauvinist cannot comprehend people being from other countries

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“Israel” is a US colony; it’s entire existence hinges on the latter.

Its formation used common british colonization tactics [III], with companies literally named “Colonization Commission”, “Jewish Colonial Trust” and the like.

Theodor Herzl, founder of the colonial ideology he called “zionism”, was himself also just a racist colonizer by his own admission, and saw it as bringing ‘civilization’ to ‘barbarians’ as the rest of Europe did when they were colonizing and enslaving Africa and Asia:

“We should there form a portion of a rampart of Europe against Asia, an outpost of civilization as opposed to barbarism. We should as a neutral State remain in contact with all Europe, which would have to guarantee our existence.” Source [II]

Only difference now is that the US has been the de facto leader of the imperial core since WW2, no longer UK in Europe.

And capitalist governments work for the interests and profit of capitalists rather than workers as is the reason for the genocide here (keeping the middle east unstable and unable to unite against imperialism with a colony right in the middle of Africa and Asia), so yes that does matter.

The government does not represent you since you’re not a capitalist, so trying to change something as massive as a genocide through it is pointless, specially when the only other option is just as bad, if not worse. The only thing that will change it is organizing and pressuring it from the outside.

Rather than “intervening” like you want other countries to do against a nuclear state, has the US considered not directly funding and facilitating the genocide?

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Israel is committing genocide with American bombs and American protection and American approval. This war could be ended if Biden just stopped giving them more bombs and stopped protecting Israel from the consequences of its actions. Israel is the 51st State, America’s unsinkable aircraft carrier, it’s an American genocide. We don’t get to hide behind a proxy and pretend we are not directly responsible.

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The #1 thing I’ve noticed this go round is how the best even the most dem pundits and supporters can come up with is “Yeah Biden does it but Trump will do it worse”

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I’m not even convinced that’s true when it comes to this issue. Trump, at least, narcissistically cares about what people think of him enough that he could maybe be swayed by public opinion. Biden has been a hardline Zionist his entire career and sees backing Israel to the hilt despite the public outcry as a moral imperative.

Besides, how do you get worse than eagerly aiding a genocide?

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report me to the House Un-American Activities Committee you McCarthyist loser

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19 points

lol at this wannabe cop bootlicker

Hey, you gonna file a report with your local intelligence branch about people on the internet mad at their governments?

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26 points

americans are too chickenshit and comfortable to do anything than complain. i wish we were more like the french.

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8 points

I thought that was what the 2nd Armament was for, but apparently it’s actually for killing school children.

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Hey we’re not hungry enough yet. Violence is scary and we won’t do it till we absolutely gotta. I mean we absolutely gotta but even as i know this I’m not picking up a gun yet, i still have a lot to lose. It’s not like it’s just here in the states, it’s happening all over the western world. When will you decide to take up arms and take your life back?

I’m not attacking you, just putting you in my yankee shoes

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4 points

Sufficiently grand disorganized violence or sufficiently organized property destruction could also work.

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Yup :(

I don’t envy you Americans. Here in Canada we have our own set of idiots too and it almost always boils down to voting for the least worst person :(

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20 points

democracy under capitalism = fascism in cosplay

no matter how much you organize, grassroots, and petition… evil bastards will steamroll your movements with cash, and add a little concession to whatever you were riling people up about…

then you get to vote for the guy pandering to you or the guy who isn’t, but they’ll both do the same shit… give more money to rich people any way possible.

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Yeah you only have Conservatives to choose from. It sucks.

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2 points

Almost like the electoral system is broken and the only solution us direct action?

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The reason is that it has not issued any findings yet. It is going to in a few months.

This is clever wordplay, nothing more.

Edit: fuck me, it’s as if no one gives a shit about the truth anymore. It’s all kneejerk reactions.

This is a non-story. Governments don’t just willy nilly declare that somebody has or has not committed a war crime. It goes through an entire process. That process has not completed yet (in the US anyway). There are no findings yet. Therefore until the findings are released, the US has not found that Israel has done anything.

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You seem to be a very savvy individual. Would you be interested in purchasing a bridge?

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2 points

In Baltimore.

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So in your opinion the US will bring the genociders to court a few months after there’s no one left to kill and that’s normal

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You must be very new to the world. You really think a nuclear power will ever be held fully accountable for the bad things that they do?

Perhaps you and the bridge guy need to have a conversation. I hear that it’s in a gorgeous location near Brooklyn.

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So in your opinion the US will bring the genociders to court a few months after there’s no one left to kill and that’s normal

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I wonder if this will get me downvoted:

Has not found evidence ≠ Has not.

I still think they’re blind, but let’s not misconstrue what was actually said.

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has not found any incidents of Israel violating international humanitarian law in the past six months

Which is obviously a deliberate lie

Edit: Fixed emphasis

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And when you watch the video, he says “There was no evidence of that”.

*Some people can’t read details, so to clarify: I’m not agreeing with him. I’m saying that’s what he said.

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You think they didn’t find any of the mountain of evidence of the active genocide their colony has been committing for the past 6 months?

They’re not “blind”. The US is deliberately lying to continue funding and facilitating the genocide.

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To be clear though, this distinction without a difference is precisely how institutions lie, how they set up plausible deniability, and how they end up supporting things like genocide for years.

So there really is no defense of it. Getting mired in the details when the purpose of the lie is clear is to support this kind of propaganda. There is no “Well achktuallly” that can be defended on Israel and the USs ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people.

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You can not find evidence reliably by covering your eyes and ears.

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127 points

Clown country

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23 points

I wish it was more funny :(

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5 points

Oh god dammit put down the monkey paw, we just had this with the last guy.

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Israel, with US backing, is destroying the concept of international law. It’s now clear to everyone that the so-called international rules based order isn’t real and that the rules only apply to US enemies like Russia.

I think we’re seeing a repeat of the League of Nations.

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That and brown people don’t count as people.

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That’s the bigger one. They’re happy to enforce the rules on brown people when they attack brown people, or white people on white people, and all hell is unleashed when it’s brown on white, but when it’s mostly white Israelis on mostly brown Palestinians you get crickets.

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3 points

And that’s why I don’t like cricket.

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Poor Russia!

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You might have missed the point lol

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No point taken for sure. I just don’t really feel bad that Russia was stopped from genocide in Ukraine even though it’s not “fair”. The US being able to enable Israel is absolutely deplorable though.

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Only leftists think we score a point when we say ‘rules based order’ is a farse. It’s meant to be a farse, or they’d say international law like everyone else. To the imperial core and liberals, this is obvious and correct.

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The people in charge see it as obvious.

Do you think every dumbass liberal does? No! That’s why we raise the contradictions.

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Do you think every dumbass liberal does?

Yes, they celebrate the asymmetry.

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