Its a bit old, but I just learned it via the retro-dodo article here: https://retrododo.com/google-is-killing-retro-dodo/

91 points

ChatGPT4: tl;dr The universe is bigger than we thought.

ChatGPT5: fuck spez

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Wrong company, it would be Gemini in this case

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I thought it was “Bard Gemini Bard Bard Advanced AI Ultra Gemini Premium ProMax!”

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60 points

Is it just me or are 60 million a ridiculously small price for that whole dataset?

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To be fair it’s a pretty terrible dataset. The AI is just going to say “this” to every question you ask

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This.

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and “and my axe”

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and “rock and stone”

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This presumes that Reddit is populated by so-called experts answering questions and posting in those subs.

But the vast overwhelming truth is that most people pretending to be experts are just regurgitating the answers they heard from another reddit post, and so on, and so on.

You might as well just train your AI on the “confidently incorrect” sub and call it a day.

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5 points

Or “just Google it”.

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My heel turn as a mod back in the day was having automod remove lmgtfy links

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Ai:

😭 I’m trying

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Hey, now, be fair. There are some Top 40s song lyrics in there too.

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Yeah and Google already has everything scrapped and indexed

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Perhaps, but not worth buying if you can’t make profit or keep it from your competition.

60M is for over almost 20 years of data, but once it’s ingested, google will only want new content. Next year, it’ll be more like 3M if the dataset isn’t poisoned by bots or the AI fad hasn’t collapsed. Reddit will struggle with finances again and users will suffer. At least that’s my prediction.

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Spez has already grifted his money out of the initial stock pump so it literally doesn’t matter. Reddit could shut down tomorrow and he’d be happy as a clam.

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Yeah, what a load. Though now they can boot his arse and save.

Edited to remove number.

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the AI fad

LOL. Do you realize that makes you sound like Boomers talking about the internet in the late 90’s and early 00’s?

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Haha! Wow I guess so. I’ll keep some shelf space available in the geezer museum next to 3D TV’s, deep fakes, fidget spinners, and my pogs. :D

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It currently looks very much like a bubble. After the dot com bubble, the internet didn’t go away, but most companies died off and all the stupid monetisation went bankrupt.

We may be seeing something similar

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I wonder if Google’s unlimited legal budget plays a role. Not a lawyer, so probably way off here…

But, for example, reddit’s success in part depends on Google ingesting their data — reddit shows up in Google searches all the time, which can only happen if Google uses reddit’s content. So reddit telling Google “you can’t use our content” doesn’t work, and they need to say something like, “you can use our content for search results but you can’t consume it as training data.”

This is a pretty straightforward statement/request/demand, but one could imagine Google lawyers maliciously complying and throwing their hands up dramatically, claiming “well we use some amount of AI in our search results, so if we can’t use your content for AI training then we can’t risk using it for search results.” Which would, I imagine, really, really hurt reddit (no Google results would be catastrophic I suspect).

So, perhaps the “low” 60M figure is just Google using their leverage.

Or not. As a random person on the Internet, I can say I’m probably not contributing anything meaningful here…

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How quickly you forget that half of it is just “I also choose this guy’s wife” and “the narwhal bacon’s at midnight”

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I’m personally curious whether Reddit actually has any ability to protect that database. I don’t remember Reddit TOS, but usually those things give them license to use and copy the data, maybe even to sell it, but not actually the copyright on it. So if someone made a Reddit scraper and copied the comments, wouldn’t only the actual commenter be able to sue?

$60M may be reflecting that, in that it’s more a convenience fee to shield Google against individual Redditors going after them than something that Reddit itself could actually sue over.

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Considering it’s all full of Nazis and bots, and if you get to filter all of them out you’re left with reposts and low quality memes followed by comments that represent the hostile side of each of us… I’d say anything over $5 is a good deal for spez.

Now, I hope Google uses this data exclusively for detecting inappropriate answers. Can you imagine it giving answers based on the endless threads i of " I’m not your mate, bro; I’m not your bro, dude…".

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It’s more than they were making from third party apps, hence the ridiculous API fees.

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37 points

Can’t wait to see an AI chatbot in my Google searches that behaves like a typical redditor.

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Every thing you google is just going to direct you to a link to let me google that for you

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I love that site.

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This.

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“Hey Google AI, could you help me find a way to do _____?”

“Why the hell would you want that? Are you stupid? There’s like 15 better ways to accomplish what I think your peanut brain is trying to accomplish.”

“… nevermind Google.”

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I mean one of the most popular search types on Google is <topic + Reddit> so not much would change

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Just wait till the LLM starts “singing” randomly to you.

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– Hey Google/reddit, what does xxxxxx mean?

–Wtf is people so lazy, Google it yourself it’s only 5 seconds!

–But but, you are Google, are you not?

–Buahaha , haha!

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Wait until it bans you.

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Google: “I’m looking to make an AI that’s incredibly opinionated, confidently incorrect, and prone to circlejerk behaviors.”

Spez: “I mean OpenAI pretty much did that already, but if you want to pay me to recreate that then I got you.”

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One thing that doesn’t seem to get brought up is the AI porn angle. Gonewild is pretty big on reddit still. A lot of OnlyFans creators, and general perverts (respect). Reddit wants to commodify this content, so those people are selling the images of their bodies so AI can make porn of random strangers. Kinda fucked when you think about it.

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AI be like “stfu regard”

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AI be like there things are over they’re

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This is the Way.

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