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Cool. Now all of Google Drive is blocked because one guy hosted a movie there for a few days.

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135 points

All it would take is someone getting AWS blacklisted for an hour, that law would disappear like it never existed.

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Piracy Shield blocked a Cloudflare IP address recently too

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Hahahahaha

Unintended consequences - what are they going to do once 90% of connections are encrypted, include use of VPNs and encrypted DNS?

This is what they’re promoting.

Host your own encrypted DNS on a VPS in a non-compliant location, use a VPN to connect to it.

So many ways these idiots are cutting their own throats.

Also, let’s list the companies rather than say “Movie Industry”. Or let that be a link to a Wiki article listing all the companies and their holdings.

Fuck em all at this point. I go to maybe 2 movies a year, at most. And I’m cutting subscription services, down to 2 at this point.

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As a guy from Russia, I must admit that vpns are not a big problem for censors. They can be easily blocked, including self-hosted ones by protocol detection. And DNS would not do much with IP and clienthello-based blocks. And most users are not enough tech-savvy to constantly switch to new protocols as old ones get blocked.

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You have no rights in Russia.

VPNs can’t be categorically banned in the US without major first amendment issues. It’s not a huge technical issue, but unless the courts just throw out the Constitution (a risk that we’re seeing too much of, but still a meaningful bar to cross), there are huge legal barriers to doing so.

Your government doesn’t need to care about legal barriers because you have a dictator who can act unilaterally.

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We are just a little behind trying to elect our new dictator…

But just for a day…

/S 🙄

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VPNs are not categorically banned in Russia either. Just 95% of them. Categorical ban is not actually required here. Government can just create licensing procedure and license only those VPNs, which follow “rules”. I do not see how this is different from ISP bans.

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You realize the tik tok ban bill is also going to ban the use of VPN’s right?

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CBaaS

Censorship Bypass as a Service, where your new updates are your [unique user ID].com

Let us manage your bypass for you! Payable in crypto or cash.

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Even HTTPS-incapsulated? C’mon.

That most users won’t care enough - that’s true.

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Https does not actually make difference here. You can still detect VPN usage by unencrypted clienthello, encryption-inside-encryption, active probing, obscure libraries that vpn protocol depends on, etc.

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112 points

an industry which throws away finished movies because they don’t want to spend the money to release it?

yeah nah, you’re disqualified from an opinion on piracy.

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Justice for Coyote Vs. ACME

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It is obvious profit is not their concern.

Instead of releasing a film that by all accounts would have been profitable, so that they can create a loss for tax purposes.

Why not maximize.profits, even if it means more taxes?

The shareholders should have a legal case.

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I think the shareholders with enough shares to have influence are the ones who encourage this sort of behavior - if it’s a long-term profit at the expense of short term, they aren’t interested

That’s my gut feeling on it anyways

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Yeah! Like, just because you make something, doesn’t mean you get to decide what to do with it.

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Movies are made by a lot of people.

Many people pouring time, effort, and creativity into a difficult art form.

You really think any of the people who actually made the movie had a say in the decision to shelf it?

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Those people were paid for their efforts. Sure it might be disappointing for that effort to not see the light it day, but at the same time I’ll bet many are relieved their name won’t be attached to a poor product.

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No, of course not.

If I commission an artist to make me a painting, and I then decide to throw it in a storage bin (or the trash) rather than put it in a gallery - that’s my decision. Neither the artist or the general public gets a say in it. Claiming otherwise (especially in case of the public) is pure entitlement.

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Piracy does not hurt revenue and, in fact, may actually help it:

https://www.engadget.com/2017-09-22-eu-suppressed-study-piracy-no-sales-impact.html

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I have found and become a big fan of tv shows that I would have never had the chance to see because of piracy, one of my favourite shows ‘Corner Gas’ never once aired in my home country. Thank you piracy for helping me find good entertainment.

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Never thought a single non-canadian would have even heard of Corner Gas lol

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I absolutely love it, it’s the perfect show in my opinion, I’m so glad I stumbled across it.

I was sold on it by the first episode entirely because of Oscar, he kills me with every line.

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5 points

Another non-Canadian who found the show by happenstance and think it’s great! Also watched the animated seasons when they came out (although not quite the same).

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3 points

“It wasn’t willy-nilly… it was at crows.”

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107 points

From the article…

He also told the audience that pirate-site operators "aren’t teenagers playing an elaborate prank. The perpetrators are real-life mobsters, organized crime syndicates—many of whom engage in child pornography, prostitution, drug trafficking, and other societal ills.

I’m honestly surprised they didn’t throw the word ‘terrorist’ into that description as well.

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…Many of whom engage in child pornography, prostitution, drug trafficking, murder, terrorism, poisonings, Hentai, bad DIY, unsolicited advice, telling women to smile, wearing JNKOs, hacking banks, and NOT FLOSSING!

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5 points

There are vegans that were dictators. Therefore veganism should be illegal. Also some people who breath air have been known to be murderers.

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14 points

I think maybe they are describing themselves.

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11 points

Everybody knows movie pirates eat babies—

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8 points

Wait.

Pirate Bay.

Pirate Ba(b)y?

Pirate Babe Eat?

I think you’re on to something!

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Especially eye-roll-inducing considering the pedophile problem in Hollywood hasn’t really gotten better, let alone been solved. Many of the exec types demanding things change are likely to be either perpetrators themselves, or sympathisers with the perpetrators of this behavior, and they tell us what we should believe is right or wrong based on the almighty dollar? Fuck Hollywood in general, but especially fuck the movie industry executives in charge. Greedy bastards.

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Aren’t those things already illegal? Wouldn’t the solution be to just go after the pirate-site owners for those reasons? Then the only pirate-site owners remaining will be regular people—the vast minority, they would have you believe.

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Are we surprised that the people that make up fantastical scenarios are selling a fantastical scenario? The people pirating are every day people that don’t want to pay so much for entertainment. You inept dolt.

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You inept dolt.

Hostile much, conflict bot?

And people accuse me of wooshness. 😋

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I’m upset at the movie executive that is inept. Not you.

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