122 points

They saw the invention of air travel and space travel within 70 years. As far as they were concerned, nothing was too extraordinary.

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Really was a marvelous run, too bad we just kinda quit shortly after we got to the nearest solar body. We send drones for recon to mars and asteroids and deep space now but haven’t made huge leaps in some time.

The promised lunar bases and Martian colonies are so far out still… the Jovian colonies/shipyards are still pure sci-fi dreams at this point

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27 points

thanks Reagan! Oh and USSR for dropping out of the race. Luckily the Los Angeles engineers were able to use their trophy wives in porno to keep paying the bills instead.

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8 points

I didn’t expect your comment to go where it did.

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24 points

Yeah, almost like something happened in the 70s that put the breaks on most scientific and social progress in the west.

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-1 points

All that heroin from SE asia?

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5 points

The risk is pretty immense. Getting it right and not having any losses is a tremendous undertaking. I would love to see run at Mars. But the interest is low and everyone is more concerned with bombs and bullshit. It would be nice if we would explore again.

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1 point

For All Mankind is like porn for us.

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90 points

Make no mistake, that is the future that we were entitled to, but which was stolen from us by capitalists and despots.

The old sci-fi writers weren’t wrong in their aspirations for us, we were wrong for letting our futures be taken away from us.

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46 points

They thought automation would drastically reduce the amount of work someone needs to do to survive, instead of just increasing corporate profit and leading to layoffs.

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and it should have reduced the work as predicted

The only reason we aren’t approaching Star Trek utopia is because of the unchecked greed fostered by our systems of capitalism.

There is no reason that, in a world of finite necessary work, increased automation shouldn’t have freed us from the constraints of some of that work.

The fact that it hasn’t isn’t indictment of automation, it’s indictment of unchecked capitalism.

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26 points

Star Trek’s utopia came after economic collapse and a third World War, in that order. So we actually seem to be on track so far.

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Yep. Kill your masters, or youre killing yourself (and also literally every other living thing becauae climate change)

There is no third option. I mean, you could ask shitty Jeff to give it all up and srop, just fucking stop, and be an aging beach himbo and fuckerberg to just run a cringe mma gym and maybe contribute to an obscure Linux GUI a couple times a year. But they won’t. Don’t think they can.

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2 points

It reduced the number of laborers who were necessary. The rest outlived their usefulness.

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18 points

I wish we were exploring space more!

The monkey paw curls. We get entitled pricks, destroying labor protections to build so much wealth they’ve bought everything worth owning on the planet and still yearn for more.

I wish we had robots to do our work!

Another finger curls. Wealth inequality cripples the working class. Corporations consolidate to the point that everything is profit driven… locked behind paywalls or subscriptions. The only publicly available art and literature are made by robots.

I wish we could all communicate with each other!

The last finger curls, and paw crumbles to dust. Democracies around the world flounder as their populations are brainwashed by greedy CEOs in the news and media…taught to fear their neighbors and mistrust those politicians who haven’t been bought and paid for. Online, they’re bombarded by misinformation campaigns on every topic until they live in different realities. Diseases and pestilence once vanquished through science and cooperation return when science isn’t trusted and cooperation with your fellow citizens is viewed as betrayal to your tribe. The world now burns, and it, too, crumbles to dust.

This timeline sucks, yo.

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5 points

Ummmm does anyone know what painkiller heals soul damage?

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3 points

Yeah, that’s knowledge available to you for 12.99 per month, or if you prepay for the whole year, only 129.99!

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-8 points

Liberalism: nothing but jacking off with the monkey pawsince 1848.

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6 points

Oooh oooh do conservatism next!!! It’s gotta be something along the lines of “nothing but jacking off, usually in seclusion with other men since 1848” I’m sure you’ve got something spicier in store though

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4 points

You don’t even realize you’re evil and that’s the sadist part.

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8 points

Excuse you, i was a child when all of that was happening 😭

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7 points

Hey everyone, this child fucked it up for us all!

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7 points

Let’s look at which legislators have held progress back since we landed on the moon and it’s almost exclusively one party…

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13 points

Facts. “Both parties” might definitely suck, but the scale and scope to which that suck remains entirely non-comparable. The democrats are incompetent and ineffective, yes, but the republicans are openly and enormously diabolical and hostile.

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No. One is worse. This does not absolve the other.

Fight the worst bastards, but if you only fight them to the bosom of the less awful but still very awful bastards? Youre not winning. Youre not even surviving long.

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Democrats would rather lose to Republicans than risk a third party gaining traction. Make no mistake, there’s a mustache-twirling villain capitalist party, and a “I swear I’m trying, please vote for me on this most important election evar” capitalist party.

Our most recent chance at lasting real change was the rail strike. Before that it was Bernie Sanders. They’re doing it on purpose and playing leftists for fools.

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This both sides are the same shit is so old now

If you truly can’t tell the difference between them, I don’t know what will help you now.

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3 points

Not leftists. Libs. No overlap.

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71 points

It is the distant future of the year 2024. Our intrepid hero uses her pocket computer to argue that the world is flat.

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40 points

Flat and gay*

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No that’s just me. Understandable; I’m pretty tall.

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3 points

Well! Aren’t you a tall, gay drink of water!

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I enjoyed how in Foundation novels they had mathematics that could predict the outcome of the future, had intergalactic travel, had personal shields, and a bunch of other fancy shit, but they were still using tapes to record information.

For those of you born after, or near the turn of the century, you don’t understand how magical the year 2000 was. It was a completely different eon, and seemed so futuristic. Conan O’Brien had a whole gig about In the Year 2000. The term “2000” was used to indicate something was fancy, or ultimate, or high-tech. 2000 was the future, and therefore amazing. We did have a sense of optimism though, that is nowhere to be found nowadays.

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I loved it when he would continue to do it after the year 2000 had passed, without changing the format.

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12 points

I still use 2000 like I did in the 90’s, which produces some really confused reactions from younger people.

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7 points

Didn’t they switch to 3000 at some point? Feel like I remember Andy saying it

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4 points

That sounds familiar. I don’t recall if it was a one time bit or recurring though.

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3 points

so 2000 late

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15 points

Tbf, we still do use tape to record information. For archival, magnetic tape is still far and away the undisputed king of high density storage. We’ve got single tape cartridges in the 60TB range.

They just completely suck for regular access so they’re limited to archival only

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5 points

So it kind of works in the Foundation universe because tapes are used for messages. Basically email but in audio format.

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6 points

I remember the show “Beyond 2000” or that 2020 was going to be this magical date that all things happened in.

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Absolutely. It was the fuuuutuurre!

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3 points

What, you chumps don’t have flying cars? Psh later.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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5 points

Or in old sci-fi books and movies when astronauts would be furiously writing calculations for navigation. Computers took most sci-fi authors by surprise.

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3 points

Dracula 2000.

I rest my case.

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53 points

I’m actually super mad at the stagnation in the way of life.

The first manned flight was 1903, Apollo 11 was in 1969. I’m still going to work by chasing an exploding machine on four round dinosaurs, the same way someone in 1969 would. I still get hungry and homeless the same way someone in 1969 would. I have an 8 hour, five day work week just like someone in 1969 did.

This is bullshit.

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18 points

Almost like slave societies do not innovate, they just add slaves.

If you want cool new gadgets; kill your masters.

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14 points

On the othet hand you have a super computer in your pocket.

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3 points

On the other hand who cares when you can’t even afford housing or healthcare?

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3 points

On the other hand having a supercomputer in your pocket is a direct example of one way we’ve made huge leaps in technology since 1969, directly countering the original premise of stagnation.

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14 points

But there are WAY more billionaires now!

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6 points

first successful manned powered flight was in 1903. People have been killing themselves by strapping into gliders for centuries. there was also that French guy who flew in a hot air balloon in the 1800s.

Also, fuck the wright brothers.

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4 points

Wait, why fuck the Wright brothers? I’m out of the loop

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4 points

they were patent trolls, essentially. tried to patent the entire concept of an airplane, and tried to sue Curtiss over him creating a plane that actually didn’t use the technology they had patented.

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5 points

WTF, stagnation? The internet is transforming our daily lives constantly.

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4 points

The question is if it’a for the better or for the worse.

I think both, and we need laws to protect us from the worse.

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4 points

Don’t you think that Commander Ryker had to get up and wade through all the paperwork, reports, and meetings every day for 8 hours, (plus mandatory OT), before he could get to screwing his way across that galaxy?

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Commander Cisco said it best: “WHERE ARE MY FLYING CARS?!?”

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Within your example, at least your four cylinders aren’t spewing lead and smog into your lungs and is massively more efficient. If someone runs a red in front of you, you are much more likely to survive. It can go much longer without any overhaul or tune up. You aren’t having to regularly manually adjust your valves. When you panic brake, you no longer have to pump your brakes. Your car is adjusting breaking to motivate roll over by vectoring brakes too. For other people, they have cars that can largely drive themselves, avoid combusting any gasoline at all, and are more likely to avoid some accidents altogether with automatic emergency braking.

Going outside that, you have pervasive data connectivity, cheap high definition 100" screens, watches that would put the computers of 1969 to shame, a massively improved prognosis for many diseases notably including a whole bunch of cancers, brain implants that help Parkinson’s patients have better motor control. Air conditioning is much more likely to be available, affordable, and effective.

Different areas have certain difficulty curves, basically moving a car is constrained by physics, the heavier than air flight and rocketry similarly have physics challenges that reared their heads quickly. Massive medical, computing, electronics, and connectivity have happened over the last 50 years, as well as a huge number of other advances I’m not thinking about. We have a number of issues that we haven’t fixed, or really can’t be fixed by tech.

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