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The flag fetishists in the US is damn weird.

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The US is damn weird

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At that age, being a country is still new and exciting. I mean, look at Belgium, theyā€™re also fucking weird.

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excuseer?

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Nee ik ben het met ze eens. Jullie zijn vreemd.

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161 points

This is a myth perpetuated by the flag manufacturers to sell more flags. Why would you need to burn your flag because it got dirt on it? Thatā€™s what washing machines are for.

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Itā€™s also what the US flag code says. The only time it recommends burning is when itā€™s so tattered itā€™s not fit for use anymore.

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And this is while most people who say the flag canā€™t touch the ground ignore the other rules in the flag code (that doesnā€™t apply to civilians) that state that the flag should not be flown on the same pole as another flag, and in the event that it is flown alongside another flag on a separate pole, both flags should be flown at the same height.

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Only same height if itā€™s another national flag pretty sure

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46 points

Thatā€™s what anti patriotic, washing machine detergent manufacturers want you to think!!

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Hell Yea Brother!!! šŸ¦…šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡² šŸš«šŸ§¼

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20 points

Big Flag is fooling everybody!

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8 points

Also, how much dirt touches the flag while itā€™s up?

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2 points

The pledge of allegiance was also made by a flag manufacturor to sell more.

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Iā€™m curious if anyone else has the same kind of flag etiquette that the US does

Like if thereā€™s any other countries where burning is the only acceptable method of disposal?

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Iā€™m pretty sure there are plenty countries where burning is a huge offense.

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19 points

Burning the US flag except to dispose of it is considered offensive in the US as well.

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8 points

I mean, the ā€œburn the flagā€ people do want to dispose of it

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6 points

I thought flags were made of non-flammable materials to prevent people from burning them.

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5 points

But itā€™s not illegal.

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13 points

You only burn to dispose of a tattered flag, burning an intact flag is offensive just like everywhere else

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21 points

I donā€™t know if itā€™s in the law, but itā€™s common knowledge in Italy that you shouldnā€™t throw the national flag in the trash.

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21 points

US flag code isnā€™t law either, you wonā€™t go to jail for mistreating the flag, you just wonā€™t be liked.

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Yeah Iā€™m sure there are some obscure guidelines like this in most countries itā€™s just we donā€™t give a fuck.

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FYI Itā€™s one of two appropriate ways of disposing the Quran.

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I have strong feelings on religious text disposal given that many extend this practice to floating quotes as well. Torn shirt with ā€œallahu akbarā€ on it? Not in the trash. Water damaged painting with a prayer in the background? Canā€™t go in the trash, dummy. Bin you scribbled a verse on when you were a kid? Better keep your foot off the pedal but sure, trash is fine. By all means, dispose of religious texts as dictated by your sect of choice but anything further feels like fear-borne neuroticism.

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6 points

Whatā€™s the other one?

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Bury

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Flags have been venerated for long long before America. Itā€™s a war thing, but think about it, in the medieval days they would have a whole guy in an army unit dedicated to be a ā€œflag bearerā€. It was an important role and important to keep the flag held aloft. Not to mention the symbol on the flag was often linked to the divinity of the king or the pope. America just continued with that tradition, we didnā€™t start it.

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In medieval and early modern times, the flag bearer was basically your radio guy. He was supposed to keep the flag held up high at all times, as if the entire fighting groupā€™s life depended on it, cause very often it did.
And if itā€™s that important to hold a flag up, over hundreds of years, weird traditions develop around the practice.

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Sure, but the question was whether there is any other nation which is so stuck in this medieval tradition.

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12 points

Not to get politicalā€¦ buy why wouldnā€™t just washing it and generally treating it respectfully be good enough (Like, why waste a perfectly nice looking flag?)

Intentionally throwing oneā€™s national flag on the ground and stomping on itā€¦ thatā€™s one thing. But just dropping it by mistake? People make mistakes, it shouldnā€™t be considered bloody treason :p

Then again, Iā€™m one of those people who avoids ever addressing ā€˜someone of stationā€™ as ā€˜Your Graceā€™, ā€˜Your Honourā€™, ā€˜Your Highnessā€™, etc. If I were ever in the situation of being expected to do so, Iā€™d be very uncomfortable and would try to get away with ā€œSirā€ or ā€œMadamā€. I donā€™t believe anyone deserves such obsequious subservience. Guess Iā€™d be dead if Iā€™d been born a few hundred years ago.

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Yup, Iā€™m the same way. A flag is a piece of cloth, and it only has relevance due to the symbolism on it. Sure, be respectful of the freedoms it represents, but at the end of the day, itā€™s a piece of cloth.

And yeah, I would totally not be comfortable living somewhere like the UK, if only because of the traditions around the crown, royalty, and court and legislative procedure. Iā€™d be civil for sure, but Iā€™m only using reasonable titles. That said, Iā€™m okay with ā€œthe honorableā€ or ā€œyour honor,ā€ if itā€™s referring to someone respected in the community that represents justice under the law. But ā€œyour graceā€ and whatnot are right out, I save that for actual deity.

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Do you think people in the UK have to greet royalty every other week or something? Iā€™ve lived here for 34 years and itā€™s never come up.

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Nowhere in the US Flag Code does it say to burn the flag if it touches the ground. The code says separately that you shouldnā€™t let it touch the ground, and that if it is too damaged for display it is to be disposed of by burning. Not that accidentally touching the ground automatically necessitates burning.

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Thanks for clarifying (and I shouldā€™ve looked it up myself! My bad for being lazy).

That sounds like a sane policy.

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9 points

The United Kingdom does. Although you can also cut the flag up so it doesnā€™t resemble a flag anymore and throw it out.

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I believe the EU flag is fire resistant, so good luck lol

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Osama Anon Laden

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Imagine having such a braindead devotion to a piece of fabric that you must burn it if it touches the floor.

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Even better; thatā€™s not a rule, the US flag code just says you should avoid having it on the ground so it doesnā€™t get damaged/dirty

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There are some wild things in the flag code. Like you technically arenā€™t allowed to have your flag up between sunset and sunrise unless it is "purposefully lit, meaning a light installed for the specific purpose of lighting the flag and not, say, a porch light that illuminates it.

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