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I wonder how many US Presidents actually were believers and how many were just going through the motions because until recently in our history not identifying as one made you a pariah in the US, unwelcome in all the little clubs that could lead to the Presidency.

Obama seemed way too logical and analytical to actually buy into such irrational things. Trump clearly doesn’t, purely out of narcissistic self-importance making himself his own deity/object of worship.

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Not every Christian believes in a literal Genesis and a 6 thousand year old earth etc. , but yeah, probably many were likely (and/or surely) deist, agnostic, uncaring, or even atheist.

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Honestly I have more respect for the literalists than the ones that recognize the crazy, but pick and choose which beliefs within their religion they’re willing to swallow the crazy of rather than walking away.

If you’re going to choose to be a nutter, at least fucking commit.

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Amen. This is what they should teach in schools. It’s not like you would go outside and tell people that you’re a flat earther but you don’t really believe that earh doesn’t have curve. Then why do people go outside claiming they a christians but don’t really believe in thw crap that happened in the great folk lore fantasy book called the bible. I would love to read it some day completely, like a folk lore book, not to convert. Same goes for koran. It would be interesting

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I mean there’s merit to the idea that modern Christians don’t follow the old testament. The whole idea of being a Christian is recognizing that Jesus started a new convenient and wiped out the old rules.

If only Christians would actually follow Jesus, instead of picking the shit they conveniently already agree with.

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It kinda depends what you pick and choose. I’m no Christian, but I think Jesus had some pretty good ideas about how to treat others.

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Every single religion on earth cherry picks beliefs. Including and especially the “literalists”.

It’s impossible to form a consistent belief system based on an inconsistent and self-contradicting document like the Bible, which is why there isn’t any such system.

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It’s like the “liberalism of Christianity.” No base principles, fence-sitting and willing to go with whatever message serves their interests.

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The bible is clearly written not as literal truth. The literalists aren’t even comprehending it or the messages the author intended. They are very modern in their interpretation taking religious ‘truths’ to be literal truths. They’ve ironically been heavily influenced by science, just not in the way compatible with science.

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Many of the founding fathers were Deists, which while technically is a belief in a higher power, also wouldn’t fly with the mainstream religious voters of today. Thomas Paine was a flat out atheist and still remains today the only founding father without a monument. I’m of mixed feelings about that as a monument could be considered idolatry and he might not really want that.

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wasn’t obama a pastor or something?

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No but he did give his pastor their 15 minutes.

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wait is he being sarcastic? he’s being sarcastic, isn’t he?

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Yeah he is.

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I mean it’s so hard to tell. They say the exact same stuffs unsarcastically

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Jon Stewart doesn’t.

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Eh that’s Gen-X humor for you. Also, it’s pretty palpable in this bit… no?

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7 points

The final sentence makes it pretty clear I think.

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2 points

Who does?

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well, there’s no /s so it’s hard to tell

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It’s just insecurity on the fundies part that they are no longer dominant. Religiosity in US is diminishing.

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12 points

43? In a row?

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Hey, try not to worship any messiahs on the way through the parking lot!

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I remember watching him saying that on the night the show was broadcast and I remember it so well, I can remember his inflections and pauses.

Such a memorable quote and one which should get more attention!

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