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U.S. District Court Chief Judge James E. Boasberg sentenced Easterday to 30 months in prison as well as 500 hours of community service, along with $2,000 in restitution.

All of those numbers should be higher.

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Agreed but there is an important win here:

Isreal Easterday, 23, was arrested in Florida in December 2022 and was found guilty in October on several counts, including felony charges of civil disorder and assaulting officers.

No more gun ownership for him, nor voting rights (in most states). He’s removed himself from the most important parts of political discourse.

Something else I’m interested in seeing in the future is the sentence of a second conviction for some of these folks in the future when they inevitably decide to try some kind of insurrection again. What does sentencing look like for a two time insurrectionist?

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What does sentencing look like for a two time insurrectionist?

There is no second failure. I’m pretty sure the pattern goes:

  1. Beer Hall putsch
  2. Light prison sentences and pardons
  3. Political minority take over
  4. Dismantle democracy

Look for step 3 on Jan 2025.

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10 points

Do we need to look to Europe for a pattern when we experienced a Civil War right here at home?

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No more gun ownership for him, nor voting rights

Yeah, I suspect the Venn diagram of “Convicted felons” and “Non-Firearm Owners” has a distressingly small overlap.

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6 points

Much like “Has a lot of DUIs” and “Never drinks and drives”

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Gun control advocacy is like a religion for some people.

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No more gun ownership for him, nor voting rights (in most states). He’s removed himself from the most important parts of political discourse.

I agree with your sentiment, but neither of those matters to someone who a) doesn’t respect the results of an election and b) is OK with insurrection.

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Sure it does. That future traffic stop where they would have gotten away with a misdemeanor speeding ticket now turns into a felony firearms charge in itself.

I suppose it could be describe as: their footprint for anonymity has drastically shrunk now. Any infraction under the law will be examined in microscopic detail not just by federal officials but even local law enforcement. Any consequence is now magnified 10 fold.

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nor voting rights (in most states)

That matters less than you think.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/01/us/capitol-rioters-non-voters-invs/index.html

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How am I not surprised?

“The election was stolen! Rigged! Sham!”

Did you vote?

“Uhhhh…no, the whole thing is rigged, why would I?”

Hoisted be his own retard.

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Normally I’m against removal of voting rights after a prison term is served, but I’ll gladly make an exception for violent insurrectionists.

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If these were black people causing an insurrection, you can bet those numbers would be higher

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If it was a black person assaulting a police officer you can beat they’d have been shot.

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8 points

They asked for more.

The government sought 151 months — or more than 12.5 years — in federal prison for Easterday

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Sure, but 2.5 years is very real time. Some people might be willing to risk doing similar crimes if they think they’ll only get a couple of months, but if they think they might get a couple of years that’s a very different thing and it might deter many of them

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Yes, they should. It also won’t matter if Trump wins in November.

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They said Easterday was homeschooled and “everything he knew was filtered through the lens of his parents” when he came to the Capitol. Easterday, they said, “plainly did not fully understand what the Confederate flag signified” and even Googled “what does the rebel flag represent” on the afternoon of Jan. 6.

Awesome parenting.

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Imagine doing an insurrection, looking at the flags waving next to you, and wondering what the fuck ideology it is that you’re attacking cops over.

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Future history students will spend many hours studying and evaluating this only to conclude that it meant almost nothing at all.

Which in itself will be an insight into how vacuous and pointless our culture was.

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People also look at it as an example of how identifiable people are right now.

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And people wonder why liberals look at Trump supporters like they are idiots. It’s because they are. Legit never met a Trump supporter I could use a word with more than three syllables in it.

Feeling cute, might overthrow democracy later.

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I have. (IT has a perhaps not surprising amount of them). Usually at that point it isn’t stupidity, it’s a form of selfishness. Either they prioritize what they need and either don’t see or don’t care the harm (some small business owners) or they have a strong belief that they are right, and won’t acknowledge any other viewpoint. They can do good work in stuff they know, but may be insufferable if you’re trying to correct their way of doing things and they just think their way is better (our whole section of IT lost access to edit firewalls because one of our higher placed techs kept doing things his way and security kept having to fix it. I replaced him when he left). People who are skilled in one area also seem to think they’re automatically smart in others, like Ben Carson.

Back to the small business owners, Behind the Bastards has a couple of episodes starting with How Nice, Normal People made the Holocaust Possible. In it he discussed how many small business owners feared becoming destitute, and in that fear despite not needing the help fell for fascism in order to keep their place. I’ve met people who said they voted for Trump because they thought he’d be better for them as a business owner, and there was pressure from business owners during the pandemic too. These people aren’t necessarily idiots, but their priorities put themselves before the other.

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I think this is the majority of trump supporters. Just completely ignorant to what is happening and what the person they’re supporting stands for. All it took was a few lies for them to start an insurrection and they didn’t even bother fact checking before attacking the nation they claim to love.

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I think so too. But the reason most of them are completely ignorant is because they are fear-addicted racists. None of them have bothered to check if Mexican “invaders” are “swarming” across the border carrying “sacks of fentanyl” or not. They are willing participants in their own brainwashing.

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So can we run the neglect lawsuits here like the Michigan parents? /s kinda

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‘Isreal Easterday’

Isreal or istypo?

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7 points

Fourth generation homeschooled with a bloodline as pure as the driven snow.

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Fitting I think for dumb religious nuts to misspell Israel when naming their kids.

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It’s going to be so surreal looking back at this in a few decades:

A crowd of phone-waving overweight cosplay nitwits from the internet taking over the headquarters of the most powerful nation on earth…

It makes me think of the vast numbers of brutal and battle-hardened rebels with AKs and rocket launchers, who have failed to storm their respective third-world governments, and the look that must have been on their faces when they saw this.

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I mean usually the government doesn’t basically invite the rebels in, unless they are loyal to the old guy, and want him back in power.

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Yeah, it was less “rebels staging a coup and imposing a junta” and more “Napoleon returning from exile with ease, because the government never bothered to remove his loyalists from positions of authority.”

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Bingo. You said what I was thinking, in a much more eloquent way!

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I think that’s going to be a much more accurate assessment of this coming election than anything else.

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Took it over just as the vote counts were being ratified by the senate (right place, right time), and all went down some time after Trump had asked Pence to go along with his phony elector counts plan (and Pence had said no).

Word has it they got just a few hallways away from where the votes were being transported.

Seems like it was a sort of back up plan to bring the chain of custody of the votes into question before they could be officially recorded by the senate.

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Still makes me sick to think people idolize donald. I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.

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As a kid I I remember naively wondering how anyone could possibly be proud to be of house Slytherin; that it was kind of unrealistic. Boy was I wrong…

Yeah there are a lot of Trump supporters who may be good people at heart but are utterly uneducated, uninformed, misinformed, and overall just lack the critical-thinking to see the end-result.

… But there are a lot of people who are plenty smart enough to know better and support him just the same. These people sicken me the most. But you know, the Putins and Bundys of the world walk among us. Sometimes they’re leaders; sometimes they’re just shitty used car salesmen posting comments on youtube.

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Trump isn’t the first wannabe dictator. There are many dictators all over the world. It’s unfortunate our would be dictator is such a fucking clown but well suited for how America warps everything to some bizarre extreme.

Yes, there are shitty people everywhere you go but to come out for donald is really telling how ugly they are on the inside.

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I’ve said before but I gotta hand it to Trump and GOP for making a modern dunce gap to identify these people. It has been a great filter.

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I feel ya, take some time, then continue the fight to make things better for the next generations.

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