193 points

I’ve never played a Baldur’s Gate game before, but I feel compelled to buy this one just to send a message to other developers that it pays to treat your fans with respect.

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62 points

Man, BG games are really some of the best! Give it a play!

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I kinda missed the isometric, point and click era of RPG’s because I grew up in an Apple household. So I played a lot of Warcraft 2 during that time period. Is Baldur’s Gate 3 going to be that same style of game kinda in the vein of Divinty Original Sin?

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31 points

Yep, it feels very much like a dndified version of divinity original sin 2

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13 points

It is VERY similar to the Divinity games. It uses somewhat modified DnD 5e rules, as opposed to Divinitys’ own system (though that system took a lot of inspiration from DnD.) The RPG and world building elements will feel very familiar.

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6 points

It’s basically Divinity: DnD Edition.

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5 points

Yes! It’s the same developer as Divinity.

The games don’t play exactly the same, but they are the same style.

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Yeah I’ve never been a fan of the point-and-click isometric mechanics, but I’ve been playing some BG3 and it’s pretty well done, I’m enjoying it. Definitely feels exactly like Divinity OS 2 but with DnD lore. Granted, I wasn’t a big DOS2 fan but that was mostly because the story tried so hard to be miserable all the time and make the player feel like shit for any decision they made. I’m not super far into BG3 but I don’t quite get that same vibe from it.

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5 points

My only concern is I purchased the collectors edition and it hasnt arrived yet. Havent heard anything about delays, I thought it was supposed to be here on launch day

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17 points

Not sure if Larian managed to reach out to collector’s edition owners but they said they would ship at the original August 31st release due to supply chain reasons. However the digital code to the game should have been emailed already ahead of launch.

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8 points

I thought it was supposed to be here on launch day

Dont forget that launch day was moved forward a month. And unfortunately I dont think that affected the physical things.

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3 points

Indeed. Minsc and Boo stand ready!

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3 points

Pretty sure I played it on PC in like 1994

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11 points

BG3 is really good, it’s probably the closest to a tabletop experience as you can get with a cRPG. All they need to do is add in 20 minute side-conversations and Monty Python references and it’s golden.

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10 points

I’ve never played BG, DnD, and don’t really like turn based combat. This game has been incredible so far. It’s the first game in a long time where I’m thinking about it at work and excited to come home and play.

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6 points

I’m generally not into turn based combat either. I think that’s why it didn’t immediately pique my interest even though I’m a die hard RPG nerd. Going to download once I have a free moment today, and I will report back!

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5 points

The RPG aspect of it is exactly what brought it home for me as well! It is an insane RPG so far. The world feels so alive given how much you can fuck it up if you really wanted to.

The turn-based combat also isn’t as bad as I conjured up in my mind. I was kinda imaging the really old FF-style where enemies appear out of nowhere and you basically start a pokemon-style battle. It’s much different than that, and gets really intense when there’s a ton of enemies and you’re trying to make sure your group of 4 doesn’t get destroyed. Good luck!!

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1 point

So did you like it??

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6 points

It’s a shame that most game companies can’t manage to treat both their fans and staff well. It’s rare to treat even one of those well, let alone both. I wonder what the developer of BG3 is like for employees? Crunch time is usually so ubiquitous in game dev that I assume everyone does it until proven otherwise.

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4 points

This is the first BG game I’ve ever played, and I’m having a blast with it. So far, I can’t recommend it enough for people who like tabletops and RPGs, in general.

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111 points

Buy the game. That’s it. You bought everything you need.

That is what I miss seeing in games.

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29 points

I would like games to arrive as a single complete package, but I was relatively fond of expansion packs from games like RollerCoaster Tycoon.

They took the game you already had, and pretty much doubled it, they were fantastic!

Far better than any modern DLC for sure.

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22 points

Expansion packs are the grandparents of DLC. They took something great and corrupted it to try and wring us for all we’re worth.

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14 points

Game is an absolute masterpiece on top of it all. This kind of game needs unequal levels of support. They knocked it out of the park AND they did it all in the right way. I’m encouraging people to buy it and play if they like RPG, tabletop or even just interested in forgotten realms. One of a few games I’ve purchased for full price on Steam.

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It’s just called “Game”? It kinda reminds me of this game store in the UK also called “GAME”, all caps this time.

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Yep, I bought the Original Sin 2 for full price and planning to get this for full price too.

Between this, Armored Core 6, and Starfield it looks like my gaming backlog is filled until end of year.

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5 points

I literally bought OS 1 & 2 because of how much I enjoyed the EA of BG3 and how much I like the studio’s style. They deserve every penny.

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2 points

Is OS1 as good as 2 though? I don’t know much about it.

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2 points

I’m curious what bs Bethesda is going to have for Starfield. From horse armor to weak mods you pay for they keep trying something with every game.

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1 point

Good luck playing them all.

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10 points

When buying the game actually meant something.

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4 points

I love the modern XCOM games, I love card games, I love games where the story follows a new superhero in an established superhero universe, I love XMen.

Yet.

Whilst I obviously was so excited for Marvel’s Midnight Son’s I was planning ahead to ask for cash to buy it full price for a birthday or something rather (to both play right away and support games that heavily target my tastes) rather than just wait for a deep sale a few years later like I normally would, all the buy this version and add on bits ala carte or buy this version that has some things but not all things but who know which is which or buy this super version that has the entire game or buy this hyper-mega version that has all of that and also stuff that’s not actually part of the game or buy a version that has the stuff that isn’t part of the game and most of the game… bullshit, just completely killed any interest I had in it.

I might pick it up and play it one day when it’s literally a few quid but quite possibly not at this point.

Just sell me the thing. Don’t complicate it. If I need to spend ages figuring out exactly which parts of a game I haven’t even played yet I do and don’t care about so I can try to see how close to a normal price I can pay and still get all the actual game, I’d rather just use that time to go play a game that wasn’t designed by MBE’s.

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4 points

If you’re a fan of xcom, midnight sons will disappoint you. The tactical depth is reduced, and it’s all around less replayable than any xcom.

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5 points

I don’t need it to be XCOM.

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1 point

Whereas I love playing AAA games for free because other people spend money on cosmetic items I just don’t care about.

Apex Legends? Yes please, keep charging for skins and not the game.

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2 points

Tbh I don’t get the hate for this model. I’d much rather be able to play these games for free and get to try them. Skin funded games mean I’ve played a lot of games for free, and I don’t care at all about the skins (and I don’t even get why people would) so I view the skins like a donation. If I really like the game I can spend a bit of money to get a skin to support them.

I’ve played league of legends for literally thousands of hours and never spent a cent on it. I have hundreds of hours on apex and also never spent anythings. It’s way better than games where you spend like 20 dollars and then also need to spend either hundreds of hours or dollars to unlock 2/3 of the playable characters.

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80 points

I mean yeah but gamers keep supporting shitty companies that provide the exact opposite in record numbers so we don’t get stuff like this much anymore.

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27 points

This isn’t “gamers”. It affects pretty much everything for everyone. People these days have no backbone anymore. Everything just has to be easy and convenient and going against greedy practices is not convenient so companies can push the limits.

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11 points

It’s true, you get microtransactions for everything these days. I pay a fee (technically I don’t get a discount) because I told my cell phone provider to stop sending me spam multiple times a week. I’d rather pay the couple bucks per month extra then have to deal with that bullshit.

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14 points

It is fucking bullshit. Look at some vehicle manufacturers limiting their cars unless a subscription is paid. Printers. If I buy the god damned thing I should be able to use it at its full potential until I no longer want to.

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8 points

Bread and circuses. Rulers had it figured out millennia ago.

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22 points

Because psychological manipulation is more effective than competence and honesty.

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7 points

Absolutely, there’s a reason that ABK hired psychologist to work for them and you damn well know it wasn’t for them to have in house mental health services for their developers.

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I will never understand the drones of humanity buying the same CoD game over and over. They literally remade older ones because they have no other ideas to milk their fan base. It’s horrible.

BattleBit scratched my Battlefield itch after all these years of shitty games from DICE.

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7 points

We REWARD incompetence and liars by doing pre-orders and still buying games that have been reported to be buggy or full of in-app purchases, etc.

So why is anyone surprised that this shit happens?

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4 points

You’re absolutely right, complacency on behalf of the consumers is what has given rise to the trend of spending real physical money on in-game currency.

The problem with DLC, is that content is undifferentiated. Meaning things like skins, music, artwork, etc. Are in the same boat as new zones/maps, characters, equipment, etc. Publishers use FOMO by bundling cosmetics with actual ‘new’ experienceable content.

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I mean yeah but gamers keep supporting shitty companies…

Yeah, shitty companies like Valve with their lootbox nonsense and other gambling mechanics are really bringing the industry down.

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13 points

They’re entirely cosmetic in Valve games as far as I’m aware

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The argument of cosmetic only microtransactions is also a bit of a weak one because it’s the sort of content that would usually just be in the base game, unlockable via gameplay or tied to cheat codes. At least this used to be the case.

Cosmetic only is still better than other types but it’s still a case of the lesser of two evils.

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8 points

Yeah, I like Valve but fuck those loot boxes, their tolerance of gambling, and screw that bs excuse of “it’s only cosmetic” because we know it’s not and it preys on the same insecurities and uses the same psychological tools to maximize profits using addiction.

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Yes, Valve’s CS loot boxes and ignoring of the gambling sites that profit off of gamers addiction is absolutely bullshit but you’re a disingenuous troll if you think Valve is the leading offender of shitty monetization rampant in the industry.

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77 points

The fact that the best marketing for games these days is just: “Don’t be a greedy bastard” really says something about the industry

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12 points

Yeah i had no interest in buying this because it’s just not my kind of game.

But seeing this makes me what to buy it

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9 points

Thankfully none of the games I’m interested in playing have MTX. Indie is where it’s at.

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7 points

This really isn’t exclusive to games either.

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Yeah, and the best part is, you don’t even have to live up to it. People will buy it wholesale, anyway.

They have day 1 DLC with features such as re-adjusting your character paywalled.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2378500/Digital_Deluxe_Edition_DLC/

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…this comment is incorrect, read the DLC page you linked it says nothing about re-adjusting your character.

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It’s not incorrect and yep, that’s marketing for you. It’s hidden behind DLC exclusive “Mask of the shapeshifter”.

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2023/08/04/baldurs-gate-3-how-to-change-appearance/

https://www.pcgamer.com/baldurs-gate-3-deluxe-edition-items/

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69 points

This used to be the way with all games. You had one version. It was one game and everyone got the same thing. All the additional stuff is just a normalized scam.

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