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Al the problems in America and this is what the federal government decides to focus on

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This was part of an overall package including aid to Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan.

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Is that supposed to make it better?

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They claimed that the government was focusing on this one issue when really it was a small part of a much larger legislation. Whether it’s good or bad is a separate judgement.

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Its not helping Biden not being able to censor information on his part genocide. None of them gave a fuck about tiktok until they told em to take down pro Palestinian content and got told “lulnope”

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Tiktok has been a subject of national security concerns since at least 2020.

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With absolutely zero tangible evidence, which is why it was a complete non-starter for four years until Biden lost control of the narrative.

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So much for the land of the free.🤦🏻‍♂️

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What? The “land of the free”? Whoever told you that is your enemy

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Thanks AIPAC, for protecting Americans from foreign misinformation campaigns.

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They outlawed Fox News?

Don’t pretend this is about disinformation.

Fox News is disinformation peddler numero uno.

This is about the seizure of media outlets that don’t parrot pro-capitalist propaganda.

But it’s too late, the majority of each generation millennial and later is anti-capitalist. The critique media will simply change form.

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No, only boomers watch Fox News, young people watch TikTok making it a way more potent weapon.

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And the weapon is ideas? If a society has to shield itself from ideas to prevent revolt, then perhaps that society has bigger problems. Patching the hole as a united bipartisan front, when the ONLY things that receives united bipartisan support is corporate interests, kinda gives their hand away. They’re doing this as a desperation move to prevent societal erosion and more importantly, loss of power in media. I think it’s too late.

Seems like an upheaval, electorally or otherwise, is at hand and this is a desperation move. I don’t expect the patching to prevent the rain, but who knows.

My interpretation, open to being wrong.

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Fox News isn’t rallying people to support Palestine.

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But tiktok the company is? And there are certainly also people on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Reddit and even Lemmy rallying to support Palestine. And that’s what you tried to avoid with your “argument” in the first place, that many us companies are far worse in spreading misinformation. How does your one very specific point prove anything? And why focus on this one at all? Meanwhile fox news especially has been rallying against all kinds of minorities since forever in the US. You have very weak arguments here, maybe you just want to have tiktok banned? But then just say so outright.

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No misinformation is needed for that.

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No, Facebook and Twitter are still useful for the status quo.

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Ah, I missed the sarcasm in the original comment. Carry in

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Oh please. The anti-TikTok hysteria has been going on much longer than the Israeli invasion of Gaza, and the narrative has largely been about national security concerns, particularly as they relate to election misinformation.

Agree or not with the anti-China rhetoric about TikTok, but at least argue about the facts and not inane conspiracy theories.

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Makes sense. There is no way you let a foreign adversary control an app that serves 100m of your citizens emotionally charged shortform content.

That would similar to the ccp owning every major American news network combined.

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I believe most people in this thread are missing your point in which I agree.

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To play devil’s advocate here, I think it’s necessary for a social media platform to exist that’s outside the control of the US government. Just because we have the first amendment here that doesn’t mean our speech is protected, just look at what happens when protesters do it the “wrong” way.

Does that mean China gives a shit about our freedoms? No. They just won’t be forced into censoring things the US would want though, and the gap between their opposing hegemonic ambitions is where people can truly say what they want about the US in certain topics. While it’s true the CCP is data mining American citizens, their reach to compromise individuals is dwarfed by what US companies can do already.

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Im curious if you think it would be OK for ccp to own to own CNN and fox news and control broadcasting for hundreds of millions of Americans.

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I don’t think it would be okay. Are you happy with almost all American media being controlled by a handful of mega corporations who are beholden to US hegemonic interests?

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Hahaha yeah tell that to every other country that has Google, Youtube, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and every other American social media company serving it’s citizens emotionally charged content. Facebook was even implicated in inciting a genocide. The US isn’t any better than the CCP here. Though it very much falls into capitalist rather than state control, the end result isn’t much different.

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I never said the us was any better. im very aware of the us influence on the internet. But there is a big difference between the us and China and say the us and britan or the us and (any small country that isn’t allied with the us but is to small to go independent).

Adversarial nations that are big enough to break free of FAANG company already have. Russia and China do not what the us dominating their social media landscapes. Why would the us allow China to dominates its social media landscape when they can ban it and supplement it with companies that are within their governments arms reach.

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gonna kiss myself with a cement brick if they let zuckerberg buy it and turn it into the same UX nightmare that reels is

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