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This reminds me of that Zizek joke:

Content Warning: Joke that contains description of rape

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkptPb0gS_Y

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Nothing he’s done has been a win.

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The GOP infighting has escalated in the wake of the House’s months-long tantrum led by the far-right extremists who seemed to truly believe that they could hold their breath until they turned blue and they would eventually get everything they wanted.

Which they would have gotten almost everything they wanted except for the approval of Don Poorleone.

… And despite all the drama, the Biden White House ended up getting most of what it wanted without having to give up much of anything in return, at least in part because the Republicans wouldn’t take yes for an answer when concessions were offered.

I’m glad the Democrats have gotten bored of not governing that they actually got the resolve to come together and do something rather than cave to Republican obstruction.

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He snuck a win past the GOP!

Article immediately references Aid for Israel and the TikTok ban.

I’m not sure those are wins.

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Right, the biggest wins really are the changes we’ve seen come out of the FTC & FCC

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The TikTok ban threat is definitely a win.

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Yeah I’m not so sure. It’s a pretty popular platform. Going after something popular during the election season isn’t generally considered a good thing. There’s a lot wrong with it too but that alone has left a pretty sour taste in hundred million Americans.

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IMO the ban is very much a broken clock (is right twice a day) sorta situation. I would have prefered the reason being that its mentally toxic, lowering peoples attention span, and promoting misinfromation. On social media it should be a given that you are being spied on, by the private sector, public sector or both. I feel like they just got their congressional panties in a knot because it was China doing the spying instead of some US based alphabet soup agency.

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The TikTok ban is a bad thing? Israel for sure is, but considering the current situation in congress, getting the Ukraine funding passes along with other legislature is amazing.

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I just think the tik tok ban is pointless, they can buy our data from Facebook anyway. I don’t disagree with it per se, I just think it’s a waste of time.

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They could buy data from Facebook, except that Facebook has limitation on what data they provide, not to mention Facebook doesn’t have an incentive to negatively affect the US (doesn’t mean their incentive to extract profit doesn’t lead to them damaging the US in other ways ) unlike companies that are owned by China. Facebook doesn’t want to end up banned in the US, nor considered a political ally to another country, and especially not China. With TikTok, China can directly influence what kind of information they extract, and what kind of information comes out from the app. Through Facebook there’s significantly more hurdles.

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It’s a win for whoever is invested in the company that buys them

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I have to disagree, I actually haven’t seen any evidence presented showing the Chinese government is meddling through TikTok, at least not to any higher degree than the US government meddles in US-operated social media.

A Tiktok ban comes off as red scare-style overreaction that risks losing the support of a lot of young Americans who already see the US federal government as a surveillance state. This certainly does not do anything to quell those sentiments.

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Yeah, it’s kind of a distraction. Sure, it’s probably bad that the Chinese government has a source for so much personal data for so many people, but it’s also bad that Facebook does, and many more. The real problem is the lack of privacy rights, controls, remedies, regardless of whom collects it

Even back 30 years ago, I knew someone who wanted to build a dating app. Even back then, he didn’t care about income from the users. Even that long ago, the market for detailed personal data was the profit center

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I’m not aware of any either. But we know that TikTok is still partially owned by the Chinese government, unlike Facebook or other social medias. Why would we put ourselves into a situation where an adversary has their software installed into millions of devices in the US, with the ability to influence what those same users see and hear, as well as having the ability to extract information through the application? Not to mention, China wouldn’t allow the same in their country (hell they don’t allow any companies to operate there without partial China ownership and influence). We know that the US government doesn’t trust Chinese hardware (Huawei) within the country, why would Chinese software be any different?

Honestly, I feel the whole world is treating China way too nice when you consider how much they screw over everybody else in trade. China wants to be able to freely access other countries markets, while completely limiting and discouraging any other country’s companies from accessing theirs. If China wants to play that game, then they should be getting an equivalent response: No free trade, no easy access to our markets.

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TikTok is used by 140 million people. Who have had no evidence of wrong doing presented and whom see influencers and official accounts already on a PR offensive. It was absolutely a poison pill amendment by the GOP. I agree Ukraine funding is awesome but the domestic cost will be high. They better get Trump by the balls in that trial.

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why do people love genocide joe?

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Oh look. A two day old account.

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Do you have anything to actually counter what i said or are you just going to attack me?

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Gonna need to put more effort in beyond kindergarten name calling if you’re going to want an actual debate.

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They’re implying you’re a troll with no credibility so there’s no point in debating.

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23 points

Because you can judge actions separate from other actions.

Doing bad does not mean he can’t do anything good.

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At least Mussolini made the trains run on time energy

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of course not. him not doing anything good makes him bad.

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