I mean, itll be Project 2029 in 4 years.
Keep voting.
I was just thinking today that this will never go away. I then realized that this ideologic poison has existed far longer than I have, and will sadly exist much longer than I will. I’m not sure what to do with that other than always stand up when I can, do what I can, and hope for the best. We have great potential.
I disagree with the sentiment that it’ll never go away
It may always be there, but it can certainly be sapped of all its power and reduced to an anemic husk of its most destructive self
We must simply muster the will to see our nation to such a state where it is not only achievable, but electorally effortless, something that should be easy enough considering how several of their top agenda items basically boil down to “stop people’s votes from counting truly equally to ours in terms of electoral impact.”
It devolves into a monarchy, it’s the exact thing this country was founded to protect against. Some asshole and his buddies, sorry ladies they don’t let you in the GOB club, will rule over everyone with the backing of the army and there won’t be anything any of us can do about it. Vote while you can.
Trump is the fascism vaccine: He is the figurehead for malevolent forces that have been at work for many many years in the twisty tunnels underneath City America, and are now strong enough to come up onto the regular streets – but he comes in weakened form. He’s enough of a neutered fool to give the system time to learn to recognize the danger, and react accordingly in the future when it comes about for real. If it had been anyone else on January 6th, with competent, prepared execution that any adult who’d spent his career surviving in politics would have done, then all the people in the federal government who’d tried to stand in his way would already be in prison, and US-hosted Lemmy instances would already be required by law to interface with the software that monitored for unpatriotic postings and users. Also Gaza would, I think, be a massive graveyard, a haunting, mostly-empty place that most of the world tried not to think about.
I am 0% joking or exaggerating about any of that. It doesn’t mean that Project 2025 is safe by any means, but this is actually the safest possible means and details by which it could come to us, and if we can’t deal with this version, then that’s on us.
Unfortunately there are a lot of people pissed at our current immune system, complaining that it’s too old and weak to meet the standard of perfection they demand immediately. So instead of trying to keep it alive and build a strengthened immune system over time, they’re planning to just let the patient die, despite knowing how that would make their lives many times worse. It’s up to the rest of us to keep the patient alive and work to improve its health, in spite of them.
The struggle of Good and Evil is such that Good must always fight against Evil and win repeatedly. Evil will never be destroyed. We just have to fight and win every time it emerges.
On the contrary though, Evil just needs to win once. And while it isn’t a permanent win, an era of Evil lasts much longer than an era of Good.
All we can do is decide what to do with the time we have left. Voting every year to keep evil at the bottom where they belong is the easiest thing we can do.
And the best part is that Democrats’ “we’re second worst so you have to vote for us regardless of how shitty we are” strategy only has to fail once.
No kidding. Why do something to prevent it from being possible in the future when the threat of it occuring is half your platform?
I hate that, outside of primaries and very local things, I’m always voting against someone rather than for someone.
I’m ignorant because I’m getting old. I also feed the capitalist machine by working too much. What is project 2025?
Yes I could look it up, but I want to hear it from people not fucking biased shit bags.
To avoid charges of bias, how about direct quotes from their own manifesto:
Environmentalism “is not a political cause, but a pseudo-religion meant to baptize liberals’ ruthless pursuit of absolute power in the holy water of environmental virtue. At its very heart, environmental extremism is decidedly anti-human
The next conservative President must make the institutions of American civil society hard targets for woke culture warriors. This starts with deleting the terms sexual orientation and gender identity (“SOGI”), diversity, equity, and inclusion (“DEI”), gender, gender equality, gender equity, gender awareness, gender-sensi- tive, abortion, reproductive health, reproductive rights, and any other term used to deprive Americans of their First Amendment rights out of every federal rule, agency regulation, contract, grant, regulation, and piece of legislation that exists.
Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned.
Rescind regulations prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, transgender status, and sex characteristics.
Contemporary elites have even repurposed the worst ingredients of 1970s `radical chic’ to build the totalitarian cult known today as “The Great Awokening”
Eliminate the heat-and-eat loophole. States can artificially boost a household’s food stamp benefit by using the heat-and-eat loophole. The amount of food stamps a household receives is based on its “countable” income (income minus certain deductions). Households that receive benefits from the Low-Income Heat and Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP) are eligible for a larger utility deduction. In order to make households eligible for the higher deduction, and thus for greater food stamp benefits, states have distributed LIHEAP checks for amounts as small as $1 to food stamp recipients.
the USDA should not provide meals to students during the summer unless students are taking summer-school classes. Currently, students can get meals from schools even if they are not in summer school, which has, in effect, turned school meals into a federal catering program. Restore programs to their original intent and reject efforts to create universal free school meals.
Eliminate the Head Start program. Head Start, originally established and funded to support low-income families, is fraught with scandal and abuse.
and any other term used to deprive Americans of their First Amendment rights
Pornography should be outlawed
Lol
Those grievances really peter out at the end. Seriously? You think america is turning into a totalitarian shit hole bent on literally destroying humanity and you’re also worried about a marginal food stamp benefit loophole?
It just goes to show how intent they are on destroying any government mechanism that helps regular people, no matter how obscure, in order to afford more tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy.
Go tell a hungry child how unimportant free school lunches are.
holy fucking shit, my European mind cannot comprehend this. If this was published as a work of dystopian fiction here it’d be criticised for being too over the top and unrealistic- and you folks are being actually threatened with it, what the fuck
Yup. The biggest threat, and the one we can do little about, are those who know this and still support it. The second largest threat are the ignorant who don’t know this and blindly support it. The third are individuals who know this, don’t support it, and don’t support the Democratic party. I argue knowing this information and supporting Biden AND carrying that success into his second term to continue pressuring is what will enact meaningful change.
Instead we seem to be getting people who don’t support Trump, the GOP, Biden, or any reasonable argument. Which while still in the minority, these folks are LOUD.
While I didn’t not believe, I had to look it up myself to verify that this is true. I kept seeing it but held out some semblance of hope.
Anyways, here’s the full 900+ page ‘mandate’ that anyone can read or (not) buy a physical copy: https://www.project2025.org/policy/
gender,
Just as a concept. Also, does this mean we won’t have to use gendered terms anymore 👀
If anyone wrote this in Western Europe, they would go to jail, unless an angry mob lynches and kills them first.
Although Europe’s countries do have major parties with the same goals, they just avoid saying the quiet part out loud
maga-oriented platform/agenda structured toward replacing existing checks and balances in government with ideological extremism, using violent force against political opponents, using minorities such as people of color, immigrants, and the trans community as a to-be-feared “other” as justification. literally mask-off fascism, in other words.
if you have time to kill, this creator does an excellent job of providing a leveled and cogent explanation. it’s quite depressing though so don’t watch if youve had a bad one. :)
edit: oops wrong link
but I want to hear it from people not fucking biased shit bags.
Let’s be honest, we’re all biased fucking shit bags
I am a communist. Take that to mean what you will and assume whatever implicit bias to what I’m about to write that suits you.
During trumps presidency, the administration attempted to do a bunch of stuff through executive orders and administrative state action. Some of that was successful, some of it was a failure. Before Covid, the line of thinking seemed to be that the failures were from either oppositional administrators or sclerotic institutions and couldn’t be reasonably overcome. if anyone remembers the rhetoric back then there was a lot of stuff we associate with fascism and naziism because it represented creating a structure of parallel power to government so that when government was unwilling or unable to take action that structure could step in and perform.
No need to discipline the weirmacht into perpetrating krystallnacht when the ss will do it.
Once Covid happened, either through a shock to the system or through hidden competence, the administrative state was shown to be capable of huge feats of logistics, information dissemination (importantly sometimes misinformation dissemination), media control and direct interaction in citizens lives.
Now that the dust has settled for better or worse, the people who were willing to stoke groups like the proud boys and events like unite the right have turned their attention to the clearly capable administrative state.
No need to manage a fickle paramilitary organization if you can actually just mobilize the weirmacht, you know?
Project 2025 is just that, a plan to use the administrative state to accomplish republican policy goals successfully. While the rhetoric and policy in it is often waved around to motivate people, the important part is that post Covid it represents a plan to use the state power that defined Covid to get those policies enacted.
Everyone should be voting in every election, regardless of the existence of an attack on democracy and basic rights and freedoms.
You should vote in every election so we don’t end up in this situation.
This. Leftist candidates won’t be viable until far right candidates aren’t. We’re choosing between “I’ll be a dictator” vs “democracy will continue” and the fascist is a likely outcome. The window has to move left to “democracy will continue” vs “maybe we can make things better”. If you’re holding out for a communist to be elected, that ain’t happening in our lifetime. The revolution is not coming. Revolution only comes when life is utterly intolerable and the capitalists know better than to let that happen.
Our only real hope is to shift things that way over generations.
no, if your “democracy will continue” involves supporting a genocidal maniac regardless of your other options, then your hands are just as stained as that of your government and that of the nazi-zionist state it’s supporting
to rephrase, if you a Leftist (socialist, communist, anarchist, not a liberal) stoops so low as to vote for a genocidal or imperialist government to preserve fascist and inhumane values you don’t share, you’re just as responsible for the policies these governments enacts, be it land-grabbing, systemic discrimination, imperialist and genocidal foreign policies and the rest
those same policies would later be used against you, as when there’s no outer group left to stomp on, they’ll turn on you, case in point, draconic spy laws once used against brown ppl, muslims and other foreigners are now being used against americans
revolutions aren’t painstakingly planned, you prepare for it and embrace it when it happens
to op above, you must be quite priviledged to be in a position where “life isn’t utterly intolerable” that little minority…
This take is so dumb it should win an award.
You have two options:
- Supports genocide, isn’t a dictator, relatively progressive compared to predecessors.
- Supports genocide, wants to become a dictator, moved our country back 50 years, would probably end democracy if elected, currently in a criminal trial for paying a porn star he cheated on his wife with hush money then fraudulently claiming it as legal expenses.
If that choice isn’t obvious to you, you are actually a fucking moron. Abstaining is just as bad as voting for the dictator.
Your delusion: social upheaval where workers unite and form a glorious socialist revolution where we fill the reflecting pool with billionaire blood and everyone just magically agrees to get along afterwards.
What actually happens: millions suffer and die under the thumb of local fascist warlords while foreign powers balkanize the US to ensure we never get anywhere close to the progress we have now.
Definitely gonna be voting but I won’t be happy about it.
