79 points

$50k bond for almost killing the delivery driver. Bullet hole upper part of the driver door for assuming that the truck was being stolen.

Either he hates dominos or his wife cheated on him with a delivery driver.

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103 points

Dude fired seven times, and three hit the car. What a menace, should have been charged with attempted murder.

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35 points

And unless he lives in the middle of nowhere… then yeah where did the other four end up?

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30 points

Outside the environment. /s

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1 point

Bora-bora.

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3 points

Doesn’t matter, shot gun.

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7 points

The worst part about that fact is that that’s better accuracy than the average for cops. For the US army, it’s about 50% accuracy under duress, and cops are about 30%.

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I don’t understand why he wasn’t charged with attempted murder. This is a bullshit defense.

Babcock said he went outside and “began shooting at the truck” to “disable” it…

Yes, killing the driver would do that.

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54 points

I don’t understand why he wasn’t charged with attempted murder.

Because…

Tennessee

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16 points

He should be stripped of his weapons for his lack of discipline.

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weapons freedom

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5 points

Not a requirement to own or use a gun, at the insistence of “responsible gun owners” who demand that responsibility remains 100% optional.

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-9 points

I am not a lawyer, but I suspect you would need to prove the intent to kill to call it murder, and given plausible explanation it is nearly impossible, due to presumption of innocence.

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32 points

It’s not premeditated, but I wouldn’t say it lacks intent. Aiming a gun in someone’s direction and pulling the trigger is a very deliberate, intentional act.

As they are a gun owner and should understand the consequences, there’s no way this person could make the claim that they didn’t think shooting at someone might kill them.

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3 points

I’m not sure about the exact laws where the incident occurred, but in several other states that I know the law of, aggravated assault carries the exact same penalties as attempted murder. Because of the wording of the two laws, aggravated assault is much easier to prove. If you’re a prosecutor, why would you not go with the easier to prove, exact same penalty crime?

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25 points

I have to be honest, I was surprised the delivery driver wasn’t black. This idiot was just ready to kill someone, anyone. He’s probably been looking out his front window, gun in hand, at every little noise for months or years.

And even if the kid was trying to steal an empty car, this guy would still go to prison if he killed him because no one’s life or health was in danger. Stealing a car is not a capital offense.

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303 points

We’ve turned into a nation of cowards. Just completely craven people who shoot first and ask questions later because the news has made them terrified that they’ll be murdered in their beds, despite violent crime being historically low, comparatively speaking.

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116 points

Having mingled with the gun community for some time, there are a lot of level-headed people among gun owners but there are also a worrying amount of terminally fearful people with violent ideation. Many are likely one bad life event, one half-cocked response to an uncertain situation from being a mugshot on a news story like this prick.

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65 points

And if you don’t have insurance, likely cheaper too.

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-29 points

And significantly easier to not accidentally kill someone as a gun owner. I get your gist but that’s a terrible comparison.

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15 points

Cheaper too.

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39 points

Having mingled with the gun community for some time, there are a lot of level-headed people among gun owners

This is why US has so much gun violence. Like rabid dog owners assuring you theyre safe. You just havent seen them when theyre not level headed, we’re all emotional apes.

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35 points

Yep. Even the “responsible” gun owners I know radiate the “I want you to know I’m dangerous” energy when they tell you how prepared they are, “just in case something happens that requires a gun”

There are other quieter owners you never really hear about though. My brother never really talks about it, doesn’t chime in to water cooler “what are you shooting” kinds of talks, and basically just keeps them in the gun safe except for his ~2x a year gun range trips to make sure he stays competent.

He treats them like his garage full of dangerous power tools. Not a toy, but good to have in your back pocket should there be a need for that particular tool some day.

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16 points

Every gun owner is a responsible gun owner until they aren’t.

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For the same reason, it makes spur of the moment suicide attempts more likely, and more deadly.

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9 points

there are a lot of level-headed people among gun owners but there are also a worrying amount of terminally fearful people with violent ideation.

The problem is that both groups have the same ease of access to weapons.

Until there are a lot more reliable ways to tell the 2 groups apart, weapons need to be a lot more difficult to get your hands on.

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47 points

Yeah. I have friends that won’t even let their kids walk a quarter mile to school, in one of the safest communities in the entire state. It’s insane. The media has put the fear of “but what if…” into so many people.

You’ve got better odds winning the lottery than what these people are afraid of. Be smart, be savvy, be aware of your surroundings and watch out for the oblivions as you go about your business. But there’s no need to be afraid of everything around you.

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7 points

You’ve got better odds winning the lottery than what these people are afraid of. Be smart, be savvy, be aware of your surroundings and watch out for the oblivions as you go about your business. But there’s no need to be afraid of everything around you.

Awareness prevents the vast majority of dangerous situations. Carrying is actually more likely to escalate situations into being dangerous than not. even a basic situational awareness will keep you far safer than a fire arm ever will.

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9 points

In that situation I’m concerned about other drivers, and also the child not paying attention while staring at their phone. I have seen sooo many teens just step off the curb and walk across the street without even looking up from their phone. Stranger Danger would have nothing to do with it.

There needs to be a better balance between the latch key kid independence/responsibility and the absolute lack of trust in your kids and your community to just not be child kidnapping murderers???

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5 points

Fixing transport infrastructure would have the most impact. Narrower roads with fewer lanes and more complexity, 20mph/30kmph speed limits, better designed pedestrian crossings, and separated bike and pedestrian infrastructure. And requiring the vehicles themselves to be designed such that they are not just safe for the occupants, but safe for other vehicles and people too (which means lower hood heights and lower weight).

And in general, providing viable alternatives to driving so there are less vehicles on the road, making it safer to walk and bike.

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4 points

The whole way our society is built is not around pedestrian safety or teaching it to children.

My daughter is growing up in a subdivision with low traffic and no sidewalks and I have to regularly remind her to look both ways when crossing the streets when we’re elsewhere because it’s just not something she has to do all the time.

There’s room for sidewalks, they just didn’t build them. If there were sidewalks, it would be far easier for her to remember to do it every time.

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2 points

I agree that people shouldn’t be afraid of this stuff, but I think you underestimate the odds of winning the lottery and your chances of being murdered.

Around 32,000 homicides/year in the US. 333,000,000 people, so about 1 in 100,000.

Powerball odds are 1 in 292,000,000.

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2 points

the distribution is different though, if you buy a powerball ticket you have the same odds as everyone else who bought one assuming the numbers are equally distributed and truly random

the difference between living in Biden’s suburban neighborhood in Delaware vs west Philly or Baltimore is huge

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18 points

Violent crime being historically low except for idiots who shoot at people for turning around in their driveway, ringing the wrong doorbell, etc…

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34 points

The “I feared for my life” rhetoric is just an excuse to shoot people, borrowed from police when they wanted to shoot people. You don’t have to politely believe them just because they said it.

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7 points

Yeah this was just a car in the driveway right ? No one is fearing for their life over that.

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12 points

The NRA fear paranoia narrative has permeated our society. Add to that those who feel inferior so they carry a gun to feel powerful. Now add the hate farming by Russian trolls and right wing media, (the two are the same, with different names)

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4 points

How often I witness roadrage/aggressive drivers makes the mass gunownership in this country kind of terrifying. I’ve seen a truck try to push another car off the road for getting off a left hand exit. I can only assume the truck driver was mad at the car for “being in the way.” The power tripping and entitlement to being aggressive towards others combined with your list of problematic cultural phenomenon and guns is horrifying.

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7 points

You’re right that the vast majority are cowards, but you also have psychos who jerk off to a fantasy of shooting someone. There are all kinds of crazies out there just looking for a reason, and they’re getting crazier in their psycho echo chambers.

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Everything is a threat. Thank you Faux News and the rest.

Different color skin - threat

Gay - threat

Trans - threat

Environmental rules - threat

Immigration - thread

Vegetarian - threat

Equality - threat

Atheism - threat

Non-western religion - threat

Woke - threat

Electric cars - threat

The list is endless. Everything is a threat to them. Their pocketbooks, their marriage, their jobs, their theism, their TV, their guns…

An endless barrage of threats that they are constantly reminded of.

What can they do against all these threats? Elect a Strong Man that will crack skulls, He Has All The Answers. But those pesky libs keep getting in the way, so you gotta take matters into your own hands. Thank god and the good ol’ USA you can have a personal arsenal at arm’s reach to instantly panic-fire at that dark-skinned person pulling into your driveway who wants to steal your TV.

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But it’s a great chance to exercise your right to be left alone by shysters.

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8 points

I saw an ad for a news app that literally said “fear watch”

So you can always be on top of what to be afraid of next!

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12 points

I’ve talked about in in several other posts regarding gun control.

The rampant media sowing fear is poison. It’s the culture that’s being fostered that’s more dangerous than the guns. “Fuck around and find out” and “come try and take them” keeps reinforcing that guns are a totally normal thing to use to solve problems.

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41 points

Tennessee again. Goddamn, Tennessee what the living fuck is happening over there?

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38 points

Fox.

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11 points

Everyone’s afraid of the immigrants and minorities because the right wing media needs a boogeyman to keep them donating.

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17 points

They want cash tips, not hollow tips

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3 points

Shit I delivery drove for 10yr, and I definitely got paid with a couple boxes of JHPs in that time. A lot more pizza drivers are strapped than you think and some take alternate forms of payment (commonly weed, but bullets and other trades are certainly not unheard of.)

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31 points

Found the mugshot. Looks like the kind of chud who’s scared of his own shadow. Fucking asshole

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18 points

Yup, a cop or wannabe cop. And the victim isn’t even black, which is surprising…

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14 points

Cop 'stache.

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3 points

If anything it looks like a firefighter mustache. But it’s childish to insult people based on their appearance.

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5 points

Hmm. Wonder who that guy voted for…

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1 point

Dunald Tormp

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3 points

Is it just me or does he look like this guy from marvel with a fake moustache

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6 points

The number of gun owners who want to shoot someone is likely much higher than the number of gun owners who genuinely fear for their life when someone stops in their driveway but both of them will say “I feared for my life” when questioned.

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