97 points

Wow I didn’t actually think they would backpedal

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Right? I thought they were getting ready to dog their heels in and suck it up

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I bet it was the incoming refunds/lawsuits in the non-PSN countries that was the decision maker. The refunds or litigation wasn’t worth the $$$. The normal gamers that were just angry didn’t change shit. They are used to angry gamers, they don’t care.

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PSN hates refunds so I can see that being a large influence.

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Idk if you already know this but angry is why lawsuits.

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For me, who has no idea about this, why Sony was so forceful with adding that PSN integration and what it would mean for the gamers, that they were so angry about it?

Edit: ok looks like Louis explained the POV of gamer to me: https://youtu.be/I2VA0eum6w4 though I still don’t understand what was the motivation for Sony to start this shit show.

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The timeline is this:

  • game gets launched with psn requirement
  • huge demand and server load make linking psn for PC players buggy and difficult
  • psn requirements are disabled “temporarily” around that time to ease the load
  • the game becomes even more successful, tens of thousands of players buy and install it, without ever being prompted to make a psn account
  • Sony has wording in their PC requirements that said linking to psn is optional for PC users
  • now, months later, Sony decides they want more psn users for their metrics, and make a psn account mandatory retroactively
  • huge amounts of players feel duped out of their product, especially those from regions steam serves, but Sony doesn’t, because they will essentially lose access to their product completely. Others are mistrustful of Sony’s data protection record, they got hacked with disturbing frequency over the years, and dont want to give them their data on principle, especially with the knowledge that the game ran perfectly fine for months without psn
  • Players are up in arms, barraging the arrowhead (who were forced by Sony to do this) community managers with hate
  • players review bomb the absolute shit out of the game on steam, causing it to go from mostly positive to mixed over the course of a day
  • Sony half heartedly rolls back the requirement after a weekend of huge community backlash, poor press coverage, and depressed arrowhead CEO tweets
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psn requirements are disabled “temporarily” around that time to ease the load

Within the first ~hour of release

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If psn account was a requirement from the start why is it available for non psn countries/regions? Valve should have restricted the game from the start.

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95 points

We’re still learning what is best for PC players

lol

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47 points

rootkits, you say?

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17 points

To security shreds, you say?

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10 points

But they are free 👉👈🥺

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17 points

We’re still learning exactly how much bullshit our customers will tolerate.

See you all at the next controversy!

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52 points

Am I the only one that reads “for now” between the lines?

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It is still a corporation. Think of them like sauron in lotr, a sort of evil giant you can successfully defy with concerted effort, but you can’t really defeat them without throwing the ring into mount doom (destroying capitalism and intellectual property in this case).

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I came into this thread to say exactly that. “…for now.”

I have no doubt Sony will try this again at a later date when the outrage calms down.

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5 points

Exactly. Their intentions have been shown. They will find another way before they change those intentions.

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48 points

Years of cynicism got jumped by this announcement. Alongside with the community feedback, gotta give kudos to Arrowhead for dragging their feet with Sony instead of mindlessly becoming their sockpuppet and prioritise community goodwill.

Team effort where I trust the devs and be far more wary of Sony.

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I can’t say I will stop being pessimistic about publishers being publishers in the future, mybe a tiny little bit, but this news made my day

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Great! Can we do something about kernel-level rootkits now?

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Linux. The “kernel” isn’t a kernel when you’re using Proton.

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It still amazes me the game works under proton given that. So many other kernel-level anticheats (EA) don’t work with proton so it’s really surprising

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That ship has sailed due to being present since release and most people being ok with an intrusive anticheat since that has an intended positive purpose.

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