104 points

He’s not wrong, the two main parties absolutely do collude to create a duopoly.

He’s also the wrong messenger to deliver the message.

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It’s not just that.

Every other election debates are held by a nonpartisan organization and a third party that meets certain requirements can also join.

Because political parties are private organizations not attached to the government.

This election both parties agreed they will only do debates that they arrange.

Meaning they’re in charge of who shows up, and they’ll never both agree to let anyone else join.

People keep acting like it doesn’t matter, but it’s a big deal.

Edit:

Obviously RFK is a joke and won’t win, but we shouldn’t just shrug as the two private parties seize more and more power when they have zero accountability to voters and neither side will ever be held accountable by their own politicians.

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Every other election debates are held by a nonpartisan organization and a third party that meets certain requirements can also join.

They change the rules rather arbitrarily to suit their needs anyway. During the 2000 election Nader was excluded from debates under the new rule that the green party had to have gotten 5% of the vote (nationally) in the previous presidential election to quality. Some of the votes for Nader, that helped get Bush elected, were cast to make sure the green party got that 5% for the next election. They didn’t, it ended up at 4% and change, but the rule was changed for 2004 anyway so it wouldn’t have mattered.

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He’s being left out not because Trump or Biden are keeping him out. He’s being left out because he does not meet the minimum requirements to qualify for a place on the debate stage. He has to have a certain percentage of voters polling for him and he simply does not have that.

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I think the point was that the polling requirement was how it USED to work, but this election season the parties are holding their own debates with their own rules. I don’t have a source on it myself but I think that’s the claim here.

RFK Jr wouldn’t be invited regardless though.

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-1 points

You drank the kool aid bruh

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3 points

The lower one side goes, the lower the other side goes. How are you gonna vote out fascism when the Democrats go a low as they can simply because Republicans go lower. Trump doesn’t even need to win at this point for fascism to continue encroaching because Dems will continue to strip liberties like fair debates away under the guise of stopping the other sides fascism. Every day we march rightward.

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The two main parties are so big that they don’t need to collude. Every single component of our media will do the work for them.

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Colluding involves communication and coordinated ation. They don’t need to collude because excluding third parties is in their best interest.

Both parties are still wary after the outcome in 1992 when Ross Perot received nearly 20% of the vote after being included in the debates. Neither want to risk having a wildcard on stage.

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Neither want to risk having a wildcard on stage

Well thats really none of their business so long as this is a democracy. What they want is irrelevant.

He’s polling high enough. He should be included.

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9 points

It’s the network’s rule:

Kennedy has already hit CNN’s 15% polling threshold in two out of four qualifying polls. But the network also announced that participants must “appear on a sufficient number of state ballots to reach the 270 electoral vote threshold to win the presidency prior to the eligibility deadline.”

I think as a bare minimum requirement, being able to appear on the ballots of enough states to actually have a chance of winning makes perfect sense as a rule. With all the things to shit on the parties for, why make up a strawman?

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-4 points

He’s polling at 10% nationally. He should be included.

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4 points

The rules say it has to be 15%.

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4 points

That’s way too high a requirement. I don’t like this guy but it’s essential we start getting more than two options each election

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2 points

It’s an arbitrary percentage they came up with in 2000. It should be lower, and it’s not like they stick closely to their own made up rules.

Lowering the percentage would be another step toward breaking this ridiculous 2 party system.

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1 point

I don’t think there’s rules this year. The Commission on Presidential Debates isn’t organizing these debates.

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And if were polling at 20 they would change the requirement to 21

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-8 points

Duopoly kinda makes it sounds like there are 2 options, instead of 2 right wing factions with same end game

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34 points

Trying to worm his way into the debates

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This is it. That is the man’s legacy now. His tombstone will read “brainworm guy”.

Not sure what he thought he had to gain by divulging that info.

BTW guys sorry I was off the Fediverse for a while, had to go get some polyps removed…big’uns too, size of a golf ball. /s

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19 points

Oh my God, he’s getting better, he finally invented a conspiracy theory that doesn’t implicate the Jews! Progress!

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How do you know that he doesn’t think Trump or Biden are Jews?

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16 points

Can I vote for the worm?

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7 points

Sorry this is the best your going to get.

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15 points

This guy is pretty annoying.

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6 points

How did the son of one of the most progressive politicians end up like this?

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11 points

A worm ate part of his brain.

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3 points

To be fair, brain worms would make anyone annoying.

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That’s unfair to brain worms.

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