Gotta love the Satanists. They’re fighting the good fight.

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And best of all, they’re not even satanists. They just call themselves an edgy name

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Christians don’t understand that. Apparently the satanic panic never ended.

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Satanic panic is their whole life. I really pity them. They live in constant fear of not only their god who supposedly “loves” them, but another deity who also doesn’t exist.

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Yep! “What do you call someome who believes in a literal Satan?” … “Christian.”

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Though ironically, they do appreciate one of the “evils” pushed by the biblical serpent: “seeking and valuing knowledge”, which is considered the original sin (as opposed to, say, the first murder, which happened not long after).

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That’s not strictly true. They don’t worship Satan, or even believe in “him” as an entity or being, but it’s more than just getting under the skim of the churchians. They anthropomorphize the concept of Satan the archetype and learn from the philosophy of such a being as described.

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I’m not for any religious discrimination.

They should all be worshipped privately and have no governmental supporting.

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108 points

They should all be worshipped privately

Pretty sure the bible specifically mentions that too.

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66 points

Hey, don’t you go bringing the Bible into this discussion about religion!

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Yeah, Republicans hate when you do that because they’re completely unarmed!

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These people are not actual religious worshippers though. This is activism. There’s a difference between the two groups

Edit: here’s some additional information, should you be interested - https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/faq

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That’s why the Church of Satan Satanic Temple is trying this, they know it will cause outrage and people will be far more likely to ban all religion from schools than allow satanism.

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the Temple […] named a telehealth abortion clinic after Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito’s mom.

This is a beautifully poetic insult and I love it.

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That’s my religious organization! Proud to be a regular donor. Highly recommend everyone joins and donates, they’re truly doing great work

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I’m Christian, but have given them money.

Separating church and state makes better government AND better churches.

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Good on you. It’s always refreshing to hear from Christian folks who have a strong enough moral compass to steer away from (let alone actively support direct opponents of) some of the more zealous or bigoted views which unfortunately seem to be growing stronger in the Christian community as of late.

I say this from the outside looking in, as I’ve never been associated with any church myself, so this viewpoint of mine may just be the result of an increasingly active vocal minority.

But I’m very curious to hear your experience as someone within the community; have you yourself seen growth in these types of zealous or bigoted views in the past several years within the Christian Community? Things like stronger, more vocal, or even unwavering support of anti-abortion or anti-LGBTQ laws/practices?

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I’m a United Methodist and former clergy, and the last 5 years have been whiplash.

We’ve spent 50 years trying to make the denomination more inclusive and accepting towards homosexuals, but for some organizational reasons (primarily a heavy-African vote in the worldwide governing body of the church) it’s been difficult, and the more “traditional” wing of the church has been dragging us backwards.

We have our global conference (basically the legislative session of the church) every 4 years. In 2012 it got very heated. In 2016 the debate got downright nasty to the point where they had to calm a special session just to debate homosexuality in 2019 simply so the church could move on with the rest of the conference.

2019 was really, really bad. The traditionalists got their way on every issue.

The biggest blow was changing how church trials worked. As it was, “practicing” homosexuals were barred from the clergy, and officiating over a gay marriage was a de-frockable offense under church law. But that wasn’t that bad in reality, because Methodist Clergy are very educated and overwhelmingly disagreed with the rules, so when it came to a church trial the jury (made up of other clergy) refused to punish. In 2019, they changed the rule to remove clergy’s option to not punish.

The only ray of hope was the recommendation of a path to allow individual churches to leave the church but keep their land. It was basically the admission that the church was going to go through a schism. It looked for all the world that those who wanted to be more inclusive would have to start a new denomination.

But then the weirdest thing happened.

The ultra-conservatives were still mad even though they’d won. They were so mad, in fact, that they wanted to get rid of those who had opposed them. But there was no way to kick out churches who weren’t controlled by Fox News. So they huffed and puffed and got so angry they decided to start their own super-bigoted Republican church anyway. They called it the Global Methodist Church since they figured the rest of the world would follow them and they left the denomination starting in 2021 when the path for disaffiliation opened up. In all, they got about a quarter of the US churches - mostly small rural churches that depended heavily on funding from the larger organization they were leaving…

A few weeks ago the 2024 conference was held. Due to Vivid it was the first real conference we’d had since 2016.

Gay marriage, gay clergy, and accepting homosexuality as being a-OK all passed with over 90% support. Everyone who had voted against it before had either left the denomination or been so repulsed by the fringe actors who had that they changed their position.

It’s been a ride.

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For real. I’m not religious but about the only to make people dislike waking up early on Sunday to go to church more is associating with Congress.

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7 points

For a moment I thought you were going to say “doing God’s work”

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I was going to say doing Satan’s work, but we’re actually nontheists

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Please consider donating to the Satanic Temple if you can. They’re doing important work fighting Christian Nationalism.

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For those out there who only read headlines, the short of it is that many Satanists are rarely actually worshipers of Satan like a deity, many of them are just proactive atheists who have adopted the most abhorrent religious identity possible to Christians to provide necessary pushback against attempts at making the USA a Christian nation.

The same people who scream relentlessly about supporting the constitution for issues like gun control, seem just fine with abandoning the 1st amendment’s Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clauses. So Satanists are forcing Christians to declare their choices out loud. If you’re going to say the law should allow religion to be part of government, then you have to be fine with all religions being involved, OR you have to admit that you don’t respect the USA’s founding principles and documents. You can’t have it both ways.

There is not so much Satanism being promoted here as much as a spotlight on hypocrisy and I’m all in for it.

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Are my donations to TST tax deductable?

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We don’t worship Satan because mythological supernatural creatures simply don’t exist.

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I really like the efforts to help against these horrible fat right policies and showing the double standards. But calling yourself a satanist when you actually don’t worship satan is just lame.

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