Though the way the leaker describes it makes it sound more like a 3rd person MOBA than a hero shooter.

19 points

Valve famously only works on what excites them. You’re yelling me THIS is that?? How utterly defeatingly disappointing.

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20 points

Bold statement. Might wanna hold judgment till you actually see some gameplay.

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It goes both ways then, people who are happy should shut up until they see some gameplay.

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2 points

Yeah I agree.

We don’t know anything yet.

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3 points

But sir… The comment section? Why are we here?

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1 point

Artifact would like a word.

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-1 points

Just think of the loot boxes they can sell.

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Is it really surprising? It’s not like it’s their first competitive shooter.

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4 points

Typically valve only puts out games that showcase something new, so might be interesting

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7 points

Looks nervously at counter strike and dota.

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5 points

They were both originally mods that they adopted rather than original creations though, right?

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5 points

Valve’s game development division feels more like a weird cult than a proper game company. I don’t think they get “excited” for the things that most people get excited for. (Remember when they were excited for a virtual card game where you have to pay for every card?) The Valve of the 2000s is long gone IMO

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7 points

While I’ll likely still play this I have to agree.

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10 points

Like idk, when overwatch came out, it was an absolute blast. I wasn’t looking forward to it at all, i didn’t care for it a bit until i played it. It just got run into the ground slowly. Also they made team fortress 2 way WAY before, and yeah that’s what they excites them.

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Whatever it ends up being, I’m not interested. Never cared for competitive gaming. Sad that Valve has decided to use part of their enormous talent pool for, well, this while almost any genre would’ve been better.

Also, this is already a highly saturated niche. I don’t doubt Valve’s technical prowess and knowhow to develop a game that can surpass all the other ones in quality, but a gilded turd is still a turd under that gold leaf, even if it’s technically the best turd in the world.

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That’s unfortunate that it’s not a genre you personally are interested in, but it is a popular genre and Valve is a business. Just because it’s not to your tastes doesn’t mean it’s a waste of their talent.

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I’m just curious why Valve looked at the oversaturated hero shooter market (seriously, we’ve had failures 8 years ago now) and said “Oh yeah, let’s devote our resources there”

edit: Like, I seriously can’t understand it. Not even Blizzard is coming out unscathed from Overwatch 2.

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Not even Blizzard is coming out unscathed from Overwatch 2.

Overwatch 2 didn’t fall because it’s a hero shooter

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Oh absolutely. I’m not conceited enough to imagine Valve is developing games for me or that I’m entitled to anything. Just venting my personal disappointment with their choice. I still consider them the cream of the crop in game and hardware development.

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Competitive online games have been Valve‘s focus for well over a decade so it‘s in line with their portfolio. If anything, Alyx was an outlier they only did because they have a headset to sell it with. I think they know what they‘re doing. Sucks for you to not be their target audience though because they are pretty good at making games.

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55 points

Competitive shooter

Brooo I just wanna chill and have fun and play some games.

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5 points

Then don’t play competitive shooters lol? There are literally thousands of great games for you out there. Why are you even commenting on this post?

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4 points

Because some of us want a game from Valve that’s not competitive? There are literally thousands of us out here. Why do you even care?

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Oh it HAS to be made by Valve. Ok cool?

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Valve releasing a competitive game doesn’t prevent you from doing this. I for one am excited by the potential of this game. Then again, I’ve been playing Dota for 10 years so maybe I’m just a masochist.

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10 points

This is what the Bronze rank is for. Join us.

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13 points

This is why I bought Hell Divers 2

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25 points

Everyone needs some rock, and stone, and liberty in their lives.

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10 points

Did I hear a Rock and Stone!?

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Maybe a few less fire tornadoes

// Fuck Hellmire

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2 points

If companies see titles like Overwatch and Fortnite and want to be MORE like that, then I’m just done with anything other than Indie Games and Singleplayer at this point.

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115 points

Valves next game…

SQUEEEEEE!!!

it’s an Overwatch-style hero shooter

My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.

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Man, I was taught “don’t judge a book by it’s cover” but you’re burying it by it’s genre, I hope you can experience new things once in a while .

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It’s been many years, maybe even decades, since I liked a straight up turn-based single player RPG. I seriously can’t think of one that has sucked me in since FFX. I even tried Divinity Original Sin 2 after so much hype and good reviews from my friends. But I just didn’t like it.

However, Baldur’s Gate 3 sucked me in. According to steam, approaching 100 hours of playtime (although I’m sure there is a good chunk of time where I just walked away with the PC with it “paused.”)

I’m not saying you’ll like the game, I have no idea. But to already be convinced that you won’t like it based on pretty much the nothing we’ve got it terribly presumptuous.

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Going to let an unannounced games rumored genre ruin your day?

Gamers need to set a better image of themselves.

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Well, it’s valve, so honestly the odds of it being genre-defining in an already established genre? Pretty high, actually. Seriously, when is the last time valve put out a shit game?

Here’s hoping it helps OW2 finally die.

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I hate beets. HATE them. I will eat durian, thousand-year eggs, stinky tofu, and a million other things that most people won’t touch… but beets? Fuck beets. Their sweet-yet-earthy funk is like a dead animal that has just started to decompose. I don’t care if they are cooked, pickled, or stewed in borscht… hate them and won’t touch them. They ruin everything they touch.

This is like that. They are cooking with lots of beet-like ingredients. Some people will love that. But as for me…I hate it… I hate just everything about it… and I hate it because I’ve experienced all those ingredients before. Over and over and over again. What they are making is for a very particular crowd, and I am not part of said crowd.

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Edit:This was meant for the person above.

This seems reasonably different than the headline implies. It’s a hero shooter, in that there are classes based on heroes (like Team Fortress 2 as well). The gameplay is more moba it sounds like. I think I’ve only played one other moba shooter, and it failed quickly, so that’s different already.

It’s not a copy of OW, and even if it were it could still innovate. Half Life might be a “Doom Clone”, but it did stuff no one had done before. There’s plenty of innovation potential without inventing a new genre. Even if you do create a new genre, it’s probably still just evolution of existing things. No one ever has an original idea. It’s always inspired by their environment.

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This seems reasonably different than the headline implies. It’s a hero shooter, in that there are classes based on heroes (like Team Fortress 2 as well). The gameplay is more moba it sounds like. I think I’ve only played one other moba shooter, and it failed quickly, so that’s different already.

It’s not a copy of OW, and even if it were it could still innovate. Half Life might be a “Doom Clone”, but it did stuff no one had done before. There’s plenty of innovation potential without inventing a new genre. Even if you do create a new genre, it’s probably still just evolution of existing things. No one ever has an original idea. It’s always inspired by their environment.

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All fair points, and given the way Valve operates (like a free collective) this would only happen if there were some really passionate people leading and working on it.

That said, it’s still a mix of things I just really do not have any interest in. Competitive online game, esports focused, MOBA-like, PvP, hero shooter… that’s a whole lot of hard no-thanks from me.

I’d love some new light-narrative single player and/or co-op stuff from them, though.

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Won’t hurt to give it a shot, but I’ll be cautiously optimistic.

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