hey everyone. if you want to post links or discuss the Reddit blackout today, please localize it to this thread in order to keep things tidy! Thanks!
FairPhone 4.
Great phone that supports LineageOS, postmarketOS, CalyxOS and a few others.
The bootloader can be unlocked and re-locked without penalty. You can remove the battery without issue. It’s designed to be repairable by the owner (but good luck finding parts has been my experience).
I love mine.
part of the blame is the UI and auto refresh, I have been click thread that says one thing and then suddenly when open it up it becomes a different one. (I am the many tab user, so I just middle click and view a couple threads one by one. ) good thing lemmy’s traffic is still quite low, otherwise it would be really hard to find the one you tried to read.
Yeah, my Lemmy instance is doing something weird where I open the link, see the comments, and then the linked article changes while the comments stay the same.
I also love my Fairphone, but what does this have to do with the reddit blackouts?
This post is informative but I fail to see how it relates to reddit. Did you post under the wrong thread?
bootloader can be… re-locked
Yes, but iirc they configured their verified boot setup incorrectly (using the keys Google provides publicly for debug/testing purposes instead of their own secret ones) so someone can easily bypass verified boot and install whatever OS or root kit or whatever they want on your phone if they get physical access to it without the phone detecting that and erasing your personal info. That’s why GraphineOS doesn’t support the fairphone IIRC.
I’ve checked both Reddit and Lemmy since I created my Lemmy account yesterday. Reddit has lost a number of subreddits I used to read and the feed seems decidedly less interesting overall. Although the equivalents to all the subreddits I used don’t necessarily exist here, there is some good information here (particularly IT-related) and I think the overall feel of the community here is better - people seem (so far at least) largely pretty reasonable and there aren’t the armies of contrarians or downvoters just wanting to spread their anger at the world to everyone else. So, overall, win some, lose some, and if I end up just here instead of Reddit, I think any losses there will be offset by gains here. Which if you think about it makes Lemmy look pretty good, given that it is (a) relatively new; (b) volunteer-run and funded; © much, much smaller than Reddit.
I’ve been really enjoying the Mlem client on iOS as well. Definitely still has a long way to go but it’s a wonderful start
This iOS App Store link should automatically handle that: https://testflight.apple.com/join/xQfmkJhc
People say Lemmy is too complicated for most people, well that’s probably a good thing as it naturally filters out the people who only want to incite anger for upvotes. There’s no love on Reddits main subreddits anymore
Also it’s not that hard to understand anyway.
In terms of complexity, becoming conversant enough in how Lemmy works to do basic things feels on par with IRC. The expectations about how easy it is to hop on a service and start using it have shifted significantly because of the centralization of the past couple of decades, but the evidence available from comparing the tone of Reddit to here suggests the speed bump is helpful.
I disagree, it’s easy to say that a barrier to entry is good because it keeps out trolls and those that just want to insight hate, but really those people will find a way when anything gets popular enough to bother with. Meanwhile, that same barrier prevents a lot of underserved people joining in and they’re left to deal with the same toxic people we’re trying to avoid ourselves.
The centralised services didn’t succeed because they were centralised, they succeeded because they lowered the barrier to entry drastically. It’s a lot easier to do that when you’re centralised, but that’s something we’ll have to overcome if we want this community and others like it to succeed. Otherwise we’ll just slowly die inside our own echo chamber.
You’re right Lemmy is going to take a bit to get used to, but the kicker for me (and maybe a lot of people) is going to be at the end of the month when the 3rd party apps shut down. I’m either going to have to get used to something new either way, whether it be Lemmy or the official Reddit app and my understanding is that the official app is littered with ads and promotions that no one cares about so I probably won’t even bother.
Yeah. I’m not willing to use the official Reddit app. I tried for a day, and it was terrible. Using Lemmy with Jerboa feels natural, because the interface is very similar to the app I used for Reddit - Boost. There are communities I will miss, but it’s nice to actually see the fediverse start to grow, and participate in it. It’s hard to change from being a lurker to actually commenting, but the community feels more tight-knit.
I appreciate talking to people from all walks, though. If a community wants to filter people it should be explicit and on purpose.
@CanadaPlus @Senseibu well I’m reading this on mastodon, so that’s pretty wild.
In general, it’s probably going to be difficult for a community to filter people out
I’m old and easily bamboozled by all this newfangled tech, and at first the whole fediverse thing was overwhelming. But eventually I realized it was not too different than an MMO’s multiple servers, and the idea of cross-realm and connected realms, and it functions not that much differently than a network mesh. You have multiple stand-alone nodes that are capable of cross-communications, so participate in a shared experience, and if one of the nodes goes down, the network will work around it.
It’s really not complicated once you give yourself time to think. And as long as the interface allows for the aggregation of random tidbits of data as we were accustomed to with Reddit, how the technology feeds that is not something the average user needs to worry about.
The only real difference between Reddit and Lemmy is that there is a bit more “hard wiring” that needs to be done by the user in order to set up a custom feed on Lemmy, but other than that, the user experience isn’t dreadfully different once the dust settles.
I’m really hoping that lemmy can see a larger uptick in engagement. I know I should be the change I want to see in the world. However the thing I miss the most is pointless arguments in the comments section. :D
That’s not an argument. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
Well I think it’s stupid and pointless that you miss pointless arguments. Are we doing it right?
Well I think it’s stupid and pointless that you miss pointless arguments. Are we doing it right?
Ohh for sure!
What you just want substance in your life? No debates over if Captain Picard could kick Luke Skywalkers ass? Everyone knows it’s Picard all the way. :D
To me Reddit was always the comments and less about the news story. The pulse of what was happening in your country, or town, or hobby, etc. I’m sure that will happen here on Lemmy too in time.
That’s an unfortunate timing. They should have locked registrations before accepting too much traffic
Yes, or upgrade before like lemmy.world did. I don’t know on which instance I will go now, not here because we can’t create communities (which is really fine, this instance don’t have duplicate that way and the ambiance here is fun)
The blackout is definitely having an impact on Reddit traffic, especially the level of commenting on posts. Look at https://blackout.photon-reddit.com/ and the posts and comments per minute. The comments are usually up to the top or above the number of posts and they are way down. Posts overall are way down as well.
Hmmm the effect is not as dramatic as I was anticipating. Am I reading this right? Say the daily average in comments/minute is around 5k: seems the average today is around 4k. A 20% dip only. Not much compared to 50+% of the subreddits going dark :(
Yes, but most of the traffic is from people going to the front page and seeing /all (this is what I read yesterday, I am assuming it is correct). My guess is most visitors who use Reddit’s apps or go in through the browser are not participating in the blackout, or maybe don’t care, so there will still be a large number of posts. The people supporting the blackout likely make up a large percentage of users who comment on new posts, and that is way down. I’m seeing a lot of posts, but far fewer comments on those posts.
It’s unclear how useful aggregate post and comment totals are in terms of measuring the effect of the blackout on content.
I feel comfortable saying that 80% of Reddit content on my subscribed subreddits has no impact on my day or understanding of life. Thus, the question becomes what 20% has been lost.
Yes, good point. I really feel something like this is more of a building surge, rather than a tsunami. A lot of us leaving is not going to sink them in the near term, but they will slowly see an erosion of quality posts and more importantly quality comments. I’ve heard they really want to monetize access to all the conversations for data harvesting, and if the overall quality of that drops, the whole thing is worth a lot less.
I just checked reddark over 8400 subreddits are down, pretty much all of the big ones are closed down, that’s crazy! I only had one reddit brain fart today and caught myself before, so I have no idea how things are there, but I do miss all the nature, castles and sculptures pictures from the stuff I followed.
Yeah, I had that moment yesterday. Sat on the shitter and immediately opened Apollo. Closed it a second later. Won’t happen anymore after Apollo is gone, tho.
Yeah, once Boost is gone for good I won’t have any way to go back even if I wanted to. I’ll just have to find my pretty pictures somewhere else, l’ll suck it up and fix my tumblr accounts, make them look like a real human owns them instead of a bot so people won’t block me :p
I’ll eventually go poking around kbin too and maybe finally actually use the mastodon accounts I made.
I like the threadiverse well enough for general scrolling and chatting, but given the smaller user group right now, I think tumblr will be my replacement for fandom things like Dragon Age, TES, Zelda, and probably Starfield (haven’t checked the tags over there to see if people are posting fan stuff about it yet or not).
I swapped my Sync app on my homescreen out for Jebroa for Lemmy, so when I instinctively go to open Reddit, I open Lemmy instead. Seems to be working well so far!
