144 points

I like Joe. He did infrastructure and the chips act. He’s a meat and potatoes guy. But his best attribute will always be not being Donald Trump.

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114 points

I don’t like Joe. I’m still voting for him because he’s not Donald Trump

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42 points

Fun fact: 10% of Americans will vote for a guy that had his brain eaten by a worm. Just look at five thirty eight

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25 points

Everyone that made 538 worth reading was laid off. Even Nate Silver is gone, and he took his model with him. We’ll see how they do this election, but I’m not paying attention to them this election.

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Well there is the convicted felon, rapist and wannabe dictatorial psychopath, there is the guy with the dead brainworms in his head, and there is the guy who you can vote for if you would like things to continue as they are.

Oh, you can also choose between reluctant and enthusiastic support of genocide, and breaking up strikes versus shooting at protestors. Clearly the US is the citadel of democracy.

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His brain wasn’t eaten by a tape worm because it was most likely cysticercosis caused by the young form of the parasite that usually calcifies. The adult worms grow in the intestine, don’t have teeth, and absorb nutrients passively.

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Absolutely, but at a certain point people have got to accept that if the best strategic choice they have is still complicit with genocide, then they need to make that strategic choice (libs: I am saying vote for Biden, get the fuck off my back about it) and then work to build an alternative.

If they aren’t working against the system, and they get pissy every time someone mentions the genocide because it might hurt their better strategic choice, then they are doing genocide denial. Maybe they’re not saying the genocide isn’t happening, they’re just saying people shouldn’t keep bringing it up when it’s inconvenient for them. Denying that people should talk about genocide is a kind of genocide denial. If the better option can’t survive without genocide denial then maybe the problem isn’t the people talking about genocide but the better strategic option being complicit in genocide.

Maybe the problem is a political system that keeps putting genociders in power.

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20 points

He also didn’t cause inflation or invade hamas or start a war in Afghanistan or any of the other things he was blamed for.

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18 points

Now that you mention it, both of the last two Republican presidents signed off on huge bailouts and then blamed the inflation on their Democrat successor. Nixon would be proud!

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11 points

Yeah that’s what gets me about the news always acting like the economy would be better under trump somehow. It’s his poor response to the pandemic that caused this whole situation we are in. It’s bullshit. The prices started going up during COVID. I remember. People were hoarding toilet paper and we couldn’t leave our homes without masks. Suddenly lumber prices skyrocketed from all the home projects people were doing while they were home. Then the price over other stuff started to go up randomly. I remember there were tariffs set on things from China too.

Then Biden took over and things slowly got back to normal but the prices are still high. If we get trump again things will get much worse again.

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79 points

What’s funniest to me is seeing all these posts having downvotes.

Conservatives mad and their tears are delicious.

Schadenfreude has never felt so good.

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21 points

Or they read it as throwing shade on Biden for being nothing but “Not trump”

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11 points

Which would be fair. The shade for running on being the least bad option twice, not the downvotes.

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3 points

Not as many as I thought I’d get tho, they must be too busy finishing their collage of trump for the next rally.

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2 points

It’s not conservatives. Conservatives aren’t on Lemmy.

It’s the majority of Democrats who now believe Israel is committing genocide. And who can’t afford housing or groceries

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I’m not saying it’s not those people, they’re definitely a large part of it.

But conservatives are definitely on Lemmy. Just try talking about minority rights anywhere and watch them seep out of the cracks in the pavement to suck all of your energy out.

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The only attacks on minorities that I’ve observed on here are attacks on those who think Gazans should not experience genocide.

Plenty of people on here who simp for the American ruling class though

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Plenty of people here who think Palestinians aren’t being genocided.

They still definitely are being genocided through ethnic cleansing almost like what happened to the jews during the holocaust.

But there’s plenty of people on lemmy that believe this isn’t happening and fully support giving Israel all the weapons they want.

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70 points

One is a convicted felon, 34 times over, and there is more on the way. The other has never been suspected of any criminal act.

tHeY’rE tHE sAmE! bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe! LoL aMiRiTe

So many idiots can’t figure out who’s really rigging the game against them, even when it’s staring them in the face, blasting them with racist and fascist language and actions, with the breath of chronic bad health habits and the smell of soiled diaper.

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39 points

Funny how the republicans did their best to start investigations and all they came up with is that his crack head son was bad, which everybody already knew. Good thing I’m not voting for hunter biden.

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14 points

I’d vote for Hunter Biden if he was running against Trump. Sure he’d be a terrible President, but still better than Trump.

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8 points

I’d vote for a pile of shit if it was running against Trump

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17 points

Don’t forget found liable for rape too. Imo worse than his felony charges.

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1 point

is that the terminology because of a civil case?

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Jurors rejected E. Jean Carroll’s claim of rape. They found Trump liable for sexual abuse. But sexual abuse doesn’t sound as spicy as rape so people are content to misinform others.

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It’ll probably get commuted to 1 civil penalty with a $3.50 fine as soon as people stop paying attention.

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Well it was about that time I realized this judge was about eight stories tall and was a crustacean from the plethazoic era.

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Idk, he’s sponsoring a genocide. I’m pretty sure that counts as war crimes. To be fair it’s not like any US president in the last half century hasn’t been some kind of war criminal.

I mean now that the other guy is a literal criminal it makes it less likely that the genocide sponsor’s refusal to remove his material support for a historically unpopular genocide will make him lose election to the literal criminal, and that’s true. But like, I just want you to understand what it is that you’re celebrating.

I don’t know a stronger way to say that the bar is in hell, but that phrase is so well worn that it’s lost any punch it ever had.

Edit: typically, the only responses seem to think I’m saying this in support of Trump but like… I’m not. So if you remove that imagined motivation, where’s the lie? There isn’t one, right?

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The other guy, the one with 34 felonies, has said he’d help expand the genocide.

How do you miss these things?

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How do you so constantly and completely deflect any and all criticism to the other guy?

I have the answer: because that’s how the two party system works to push you towards defending the genocide guy.

Like, you get that the genocide support has a good chance of making him lose to the somehow-worse-genocide-guy, right? Like why aren’t you mad about that? Why do you constantly have to tell everyone to stop talking about the genocide support? You realise that’s a kind of genocide denial, right?

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I don’t believe it’s as unpopular as you think. The one-state (final) solution has been the only acceptable answer for decades, and everyone turned a blind eye to turning Gaza into a prison while “settlers” terraform the West Bank.

The other guy moved his embassy to disputed territory, firmly claiming the whole of Jerusalem for one side. “Their 911” plays a huge part in maufacturing consent in casual observers, and “never again” was always tongue-in-cheek.

Honestly, does anyone still care about the enslavement and cultural destruction of Chinese Uyghurs? How about the Rohingya genocide?

This election comes down to narcissistic boomers who believe the world should die with them. Their pop religion tells them armageddon will happen in their lifetime and the other guy is offering a way to make it happen.

Life has been objectively getting worse for years. The end of the world (or at least the american experiment) is on the ballot - the question is whether enough voters want to burn it all down.

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The other has never been suspected of any criminal act.

No crimes but war crimes

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So is Trump …and Obama …and pretty much all of them? It’s a war crime only when it’s done by US enemies

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Guess I’m an idiot, because I know about the Leahy Law.

Now retired, Mr Leahy has voiced concerns that US support for Israel’s war in Gaza has breached his namesake policy. source

”On this one, I think that there are violations of the Leahy Law,” he recently told Vermont local media.

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53 points

I’d vote for a convicted felon. Fuck, I almost was one.

Now, a pedophilic misogynistic cheeto? Nah, I’ll take the sleepy dude.

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This is why memes such as this are shitty. It throws convicted felons into the pile of just “bad people” and doesn’t think anything of it.

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Agreed. Nuance and meme rarely play well together though, so my expectations don’t have me up in arms over it.

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11 points

That kind of crap is how conservatives see people (in my experience), so it’s a little bit funny to see that reasoning turned against their ridiculous hero.

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Convicted felons are by definition bad people cause they commited a felony.

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45 points

I like presidents who aren’t convicted felons.

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I like presidents who aren’t corrupt octogenarians.

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Yeah. Obviously if a candidate is a criminal that should invalidate them in the eyes of any sane voter, but really the bar should be a lot higher for anyone to be happy with their choice. The real motivation shouldn’t be to vote for the lesser of 2 evils and call it good enough, it should be to literally fight back against corruption until we have options we actually like. Obviously it’s too late for that in this election, but we should already be getting started in the fights to get someone worthwhile in the 2028 elections.

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