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And in case you haven’t been paying attention, the Trump fascists want to undo all that with Project 2025.

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Of course they want no fault divorce gone. They want their spouses stuck with them and unable to flee from the insanity.

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Yeah I actually came across this statistic in this article about those guys wanting to make divorce much harder, which linked to the study: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/05/no-fault-divorce-gop-republicans-mainstream-podcast-dudes/

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In addition to the men who are pushing these laws are the women who have bought into the same misogyny and support women being forced to stay in marriage. Frequently the same women who oppose abortion rights.

It is primarily men, but they wouldn’t be successful without that support.

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The fact that there are women who support this bullshit is something my mind can’t comprehend. Are they sociopaths, sycophants, brainwashed… or all of the above? I try to be mindfully empathetic and attempt to understand differing opinions even if i disagree…but I really struggle with this one. I just can’t get there.

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There’s no ‘want’ to it.

They already have. Idaho got away with criminalizing abortion, which means 2/3 of the states will do the same next session, just like how 2/3 of the states still allow for you to be paid $7 an hour.

In the absence of a true opposition party, the wolves are feasting.

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“bUt DeMs SaMe!”

-some white kid trying to excuse themselves from their civic duty

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That’s the thing.

You used to be able to count on Democrats to fight for social issues, at least. The Dems we have now are only concerned with increasing their own wealth, and that was very well-evidenced by their response to the Roe vs Wade leaks. Do you recall their response? They used it to fundraise and did nothing else. ($80,000,000 was the cost of your rights to bodily autonomy, in case you’re curious.)

And now 2/3 of the states will get away with criminalizing abortion within another year or two, tops.

I remember when, in his first SOTU, Joe Biden mocked the Defund The Police movement, and called for increased police funding, even though the police are overtly fascist in most of the country and we all had just watched them proudly execute a man in the streets.

Now he’s sending more bombs to Israel.

If you’re telling yourself the Dems are the answer, I think you’re just asleep at the wheel here.

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It’s infuriating to listen to people talk about lack of divorce (in certain cultures, times, etc) thinking it means a successful marriage.

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There’s a comedian who did a bit that was something like “A lot of my friends have parents who got divorced. Mine should have but didn’t. I think I had it worse”.

Paraphrased horribly, but if someone recognizes this bit, please let me know because I’ve long since forgotten even though the gist of it has stuck with me.

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Also infuriating is a certain psychologist saying “kids from parents that stay together do better”, completely missing the point that there was dysfunction which led to divorce.

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I don’t think it’s an unfair thing to say - as a professional doing public communication, staying together for the kids is in the child’s best interest, generally

Obviously, if there’s abuse of any kind anywhere in the house, that’s no longer the case. And it’s not always going to be the best choice, but it’s a good idea to at least try

I wouldn’t read that as “we should make divorce harder, legally or socially” - if they went on to say that they’d be way out of line IMO

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I mean I recognize it, but as something I frequently say to my therapist. (They finally divorced when I was 24).

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Many states will not allow a divorce if the woman is pregnant, it’s a twisted cycle of abuse and control.

A study recently published in the Journal of the American College of Surgeons found that states that restricted abortion access from 2018 to 2020 had a 75 percent higher rate of peripartum homicide — people who were killed while pregnant or in their first year after giving birth — than states without restrictions. The same trend did not hold in homicide rates for men.

Just like the pieces of shit that rail about “No fault divroce destroying the family”, Restrictions on the bodily autonmy of women leads only to death and misery, I refuse to call those people “pro-life” or “pro-family”, they are simply anti-womens rights.

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How is divorce a matter of consent?

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Traditionally both parties had to agree to get divorced if there had not been some “grounds” for the divorce that could be proved in court. That’s why the classic business for old timey private detectives was proving that their client’s spouse was committing adultery in order to legally justify a divorce.

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So women having rights killed an entire genre

Edit Noir is the genre

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Well idk if I would say that, it was just a classic trope. Noir is very much alive and defined by not having any “good” charcters, just lots of shades of gray quasi heroes. “Nightcralwer”, “Emily the Criminal” and “Girl with the dragon tattoo” movies are great examples of modern noir. That trope is just dated, but also still used in sci-fi like Blade Runner.

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Nah, PI work just became a lot more desk jobby between the stakeouts you end up doing

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Wait till you learn the reason man created marriage…

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Probably lowered the rate of dudes “accidentally” ingesting arsenic in their coffee too.

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I was reading a book where people anonymously share confessions. And one was about a person who worked at a Hospice providing care. They shared a lot of old women, on their last days, would confess to murdering their husbands.

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