Sony learned nothing from the Helldivers 2 shitshow.

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Sony learned nothing from the Helldivers 2 shitshow

Well they learned to announce that it would require an account before releasing the game rather than after people had already bought it, which was the complaint with Helldivers, right?

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It also smells a lot like always-online DRM for a game that otherwise exists entirely offline. The previous game is available on GOG.

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While it was the complaint, the game did mention a required PSN account on all storefronts. This was disabled when auth/login was unplayably bad on launch week, then not re-enabled until a while later (with a week long heads up for new players and a month long heads up for existing players). Nobody actually got locked out of the game, and as my PSN account is registered somewhere I do not live, I don’t think anyone would’ve been stopped playing by the change if it had been pushed.

What we “won” and sony “learned” is that they can’t get accurate metrics on playercount since HD2’s statistics aren’t being tracked correctly by the game’s session system and the playerbase is uncooperative. In this era where data is king, this just means we’ll stop seeing Sony funded helldivers ads on youtube while they market their giants that correctly report the data they’re looking for that helps them make a userbase that prints money.

Oh, and we marred the all-time and recent review score from overwhelmingly positive. Guarantee you the successful action was the steam refund count on the game - truly unsolvable problem. As refund requests that don’t meet an automatic metric need a reply, and resolution usually takes ~an hour, the 6 digit refund count was not realistically solvable without rolling the requirement for a legitimate PSN account back. You can track how many total refund requests steam has day by day, as this is a public count in steam’s support page. There were 800k more than the average weekend.

Tl;dr: while the complaint was this, the reality was not. The review bomb hurt arrowhead’s relationship with sony more than it hurt sony. The refund bomb didn’t cause steam to change policies this time but damn if it isn’t justified now.

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You can’t make an PSN account in 175 countries. What’s why people don’t this stuff.

EDIT I was wrong. You can’t make an PSN account in 121 countries, https://insider-gaming.com/countries-that-dont-have-psn

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TIL you can make a PSN account in North Korea.

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I don’t honestly understand why Sony is pushing this do hard.

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There’s definitely a CEO whose bonus depends on hitting a certain number of PSN accounts. I can only assume account info is being sold because why else would they care? It’s either that or they eventually plan on charging PC players a monthly fee to play all their Sony games.

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It’s either that or they eventually plan on charging PC players a monthly fee to play all their Sony games.

That would be hilarious, I’d love to see the backlash if they tried that.

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It would sound an awful lot like the high seas, methinks.

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could also just be as simple as getting people’s feet in the door to their marketplace. if you already have an account maybe you’ll be fractionally more likely to buy other stuff in the store. multiply that by a few million or whatever… it’s not nothing.

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They want your data so they can market you a PS5 better.

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Marketing. They want to increase PSN account numbers to increase their valuation, to have more data, and to make it easier for customers to move to their products/services since the account creation is already done.

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Not if I pirate it.

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Cheaper, better

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Not in a million fucking years Sony. I would have gladly given you my money, but apparently that’s not good enough for you.

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Well, another game I won’t be playing in that case. Fortunately my backlog is large enough to keep me busy for the next couple of years, so I feel no need to play every new title. But still: my wallet thanks Sony for making the choice for me.

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We’ll help you pirate it, just ask.

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Thanks, I know my way around the high seas should the need arise. But I can’t play every game out there anyway, so as long as I can get my gaming needs satisfied through non-shittified legal means I prefer that.

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Ragnarok

“… should the mead arise.”

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Oh, and also, it’s only “illegal” because they have the money.

See: wage theft

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I think they’re okay with that. The budget for these games has ballooned so much, they feel like they need a market goal beyond the $60 sale. Microtransactions are one approach, but pulling people into a gaming ecosystem like PSN is another. If you’re not interested in either, you’re not their target demographic.

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just a couple of years… yeah…

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