70 points

I think this would be hilarious.

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59 points

Really on par with their conference at Four Seasons Total Landscaping.

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It’s the kind of kayfabe he excels at.

I think house arrest and/or parole makes the most sense here. Politically and in reality. Somehow, he’s a first offender. Make him pay to check into a dirty office in NYC once a week, pee in a cup, promise he hasn’t spoken to any other known felons since his last parole check in…

Denies him the martyrdom of a few months in jail, as well as the inane drama he would inevitably force out of it.

As much as I would love to see him in jail, as much as he deserves it… Drug tests and maybe an ankle bracelet would be more realistic.

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23 points

Yeah, I’m 100% for regular drug checks on him.

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I’m curious how effective that would be when he still has a secret service detail.

This whole situation is all kinds of vaudeville.

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I want to know how being around guns is supposed to work with the Secret Service. Had a buddy go back in because his parole officer made a surprise visit and, unknown to him, his buddy had stuck a pistol in the sofa. Straight back to prison.

I’m sure the judge can make an exception, unless that sort of thing is a statute?

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10 points

I imagine the drug being in someone else’s physical possession makes a difference. People (thankfully and reasonably) aren’t charged for guns the police have in their possession during their arrest, for example.

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Hopefully the secret service aren’t stashing their guns between the sofa cushions.

It’s probably not too different from if your buddy has gone into a police station to report a crime. He shouldn’t have his parole violated for being near the guns that the police are carrying.

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What other kind of limitations go with house arrest in NY? Can he have any visitors he wants, teleconference etc?

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I’m not an expert on NY law I’m just kind of spitballing about what you hear about parole and house arrest via movies and headlines.

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Oh the wild statements that he’ll post about how his parole officer is treating him “so unfair”.

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I’m only interested in prison in the Federal cases, and that will only happen if and when he loses the election. After that I want Jack Smith to go full gloves off on the classified documents case, force the 11th circuits hand to recuse Loose Cannon, and then sit his fucking ass in court where they are pushing for life in prison without the possibility of parole. Then he can sit in his special cell all by himself with his secret service detail while he slowly rots from the inside out.

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6 points

We need to stop waiting for the next election to do things about this fascist trash trying to overthrow elections.

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51 points

can you imagine the shoe being on the other foot? if the dems wanted to run someone with a felony conviction, how that would play out in their propaganda pipeline???

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Why are we still asking those questions about “what if the other side”?

Yes, we can imagine.

You don’t reason with the GOP.

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4 points

these kinds of comparisons are important for all of us to understand just out of scope… out of reality… the conservative movement has become.

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3 points

I guess it makes sense.

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Donald Trump. Dying in jail. VS. Edward Snowden. Trapped in a Russian jail. Who will win!?!? Find out on America is a fucking joke!

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38 points

Remember when presidential scandals were about the guy wearing a tan suit instead of a dark colored one? Pepperidge farm remembers.

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That wasn’t about the suit, in case you were unclear on that.

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Can you enlighten us? From what I recall, the extent of that “controversy” was that Obama’s tan suit wasn’t solemn enough to wear to a conference about war.

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He was black in the White House. That’s what those people objected to.

Plenty of Presidents have worn tan suits and no one objected:

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Or getting a consensual blowjob.

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To be fair, me as a south European kid I had an hard time to understand where the issue was there 😅 Sure power imbalance but more something to frown upon rather than the huge deal it became.

I think it is better that that kind of “scandals” are not happening any more

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As a kid back then, I was “scandalized,” in the sense that to me politicians represented, or are supposed to represent, a model of societal excellence. I was laughing while I typed that. But I was a kid. What the fuck did I know?

Today, I’d say “as long as they’re doing their jobs and they’re not harming anyone, who the fuck cares what they do with their private life?” Of course, the whole power imbalance is problematic. So I guess these matters can be treated on a case-by-case basis.

I’d rather have blowjob scandals than the nazi rhetoric normalizing we have today.

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Let’s be honest. The power imbalance takes away/overrides the consent.

Edit: guess coerced consent is consent, been doing it wrong all this time apparently lol

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I guess. But I’m not going to argue about that because that would be a red herring.

My point is, I’d rather deal with that than a moron being found as a rapist and a traitor, and people not caring.

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I remember when the biggest political scandal was Obama using the wrong brand of mustard.

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34 points

Why on earth would a prison allow a prisoner to broadcast a speech?

Put him in an orange jump suit already and let him bust rocks with a sledge hammer.

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Because prisons are for poor people. If it happens, he’ll end up in a “prison resort” that has all the amenities he wants on the technicality that he can’t leave.

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So the EU has a member of the parliament who is in prison for membership of a criminal organization (which commited murder). He was still allowed to travel to Brussels and Strasbourg for his work. Really messed up. But I can imagine the US doing something similiar with trump. The guy is called Ioannis Lagos if you want to look it up.

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IIRC, he was allowed to travel to Brussels and Strasbourg only before he was convicted in 2020. Right after he was convicted, his immunity as a delegate of the EU parliament had been lifted, he was extradicted to Greece, and he is now in prison. He still gets paid as a MEP, though. I hope nobody is stupid enough to vote for him again this Sunday.

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3 points

Two Americas, my friend. We all know the story, let’s not pretend it isn’t reality

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My favorite neolib is the one that is for prison reform but wants rampant prison abuse for people they don’t like.

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Bust rocks with those tiny hands? Maybe a toothbrush to scrub the toilets might be more appropriate.

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My favorite neolib is the one that is usually for prison reform but wants rampant prison abuse for people they don’t like.

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I just remember when Trump’s DOJ put together those posse groups to roll up on people protesting during the BLM stuff. All of them were either from ICE or prison corrections. They’re entirely in the pocket of the GOP.

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Unless the warden doesn’t allow it

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