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Linux will never be a home operating system for most people. It will not even come close to windows or Mac. It is not user friendly, it is not supported by the VAST majority of home use software and it has too many distros. No one wants to get with an OS when the first question is which version. The learning curve is too steep and when stuff goes wrong it is way harder to find and solve.

It’s nice that yall like it but the amount of forceful shoving of Linux on lemmy is hysterical knowing how no one listens.

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Damn.

31 flavors and you choose to be salty…

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Hey. Blame OP. They asked. I wouldn’t have said shit otherwise

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I know, Tom.

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The discussions on Lemmy were exactly what made me try out Linux, and now I’m an avid Linux’er. +1 for Linux.

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There’s no harm in telling people about Linux though. The majority of people who can figure out the fediverse probably have the requisite technical skills to figure out Linux. Yeah I agree it’ll never be a home OS for most people, but also many homes don’t even have a PC at all anymore.

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The problem is when people get militant and / or hostile about it

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This, today PC means laptop, that’s what almost everyone who has a PC uses, most people do with just a tablet though. 95% of the garbage people use the internet for can be done on a mid range smart phone. The people who need high powered desktop devices or use them for entertainment are already a minority in the market for computing devices. The largest chunk of OS marketshare is decided by business purchases, not individual PC owners.

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So what you’re saying is, most people already run Linux (or BSD) on their main computing device.

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There is a large difference between telling someone and then getting mass downvoting anyone who dares oppose Linux while throwing a hissyfit and claiming that Linux is the greatest thing since oxygen. Lemmy is on the latter, not the former.

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My recent unpopular opinion post on this topic was controversial

https://lemmy.world/post/15869915

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My post (on my other lemmy account before I switched this one to my main) sharing a video by a youtuber that said some open source software was badly designed in terms of UI and how it could be improved received so much hostility that I got fed up and ended up deleting it

It wasn’t even a negative video, my post wasn’t even negative

What was the point of sharing it if people just react hostile towards it even though you shared it in good faith

The bad design with some open source software is why I don’t use some of them and why I haven’t installed Linux as a dual boot operating system yet

I use blender and krita because they have good designs with the gui and its catered towards the user using the software in this case creatives

Gimp however and other badly designed open source software don’t cater GUI towards the user demographics that would be using them

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This kind of self-fulfilling prophecy is what will drive down even more support for Linux. The thing we need to do right now is to let more people try out Linux so that corporations will see Linux as a potential target on the desktop and make products for Linux, not the opposite like what you are saying.

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Me: Linux won’t work because Linux people push it too hard despite it having multiple downsides in comparison to the more widely used OS

You: NO, YOU JUST NEED TO USE LINUX

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You: “Linux will never be a popular OS.”

Him: “I think it actually can be if we --”

You: “WERE YOU NOT LISTENING?!”

It’s fitting that you used a gif of Riker before he grew the beard.

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Agreed, I don’t get the argument for using Linux beyond vague “windows bad” hand waving. Frankly, having to use computers probably every hour of my waking life for work and entertainment, I find nothing wrong with windows, or Mac OS. Or iOS or iPad OS beyond just the idiosyncratic annoyances each OS brings to the table. Is there any tangible reason Linux is superior to all the other OSs out there beyond it being open source? Also how is being open spurce objectively a benefit?

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Privacy/no data mining is (frankly) a huge deal and a major problem in modern society is that this is not valued at all. To me, this is really analogous to the climate crisis in the sense that we’ve known about the impending climate crisis for decades and no one valued it till we got to the point of no return/crisis point. I really cannot emphasise enough what a big deal it is to value your data/information/privacy.

Other than that, Linux really is a functional OS and there will be other benefits like multiple desktop styles to choose from, the possibility to do more advanced things if you need to (if learn how), the OS is virus-free, better performance (because the computer doesn’t need to work so hard on your OS and can spend that energy on other things), giving life to old hardware that Windows no longer supports (and saving your money as well as the planet from thr e-waste), the importance of an alternative choice so the market is not monopolised by predator corporate giants. There will be loads more benefits, but those are a few to begin with.

It also has downsides (as mentioned above).

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Doesn’t it use less system resources?

When Windows 10 isn’t supported anymore, better to use Linux than have an unsecure computer or buy a new computer.

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For me windows uses 3-5gb of ram on idle just after starting up. This is pretty consistent across multiple computers for me. On the same computers (I dual-boot on both my laptop and desktop) Linux idles at about 800mb-1.2gb. This was even true on KDE which was one of the “heavier” feature-rich desktop environments. I think Gnome might have been 1.5gb ish but I haven’t used in a while. Either way, it used way less RAM than my windows installs which could noticeably impact some resource intensive programs like blender or davinci resolve

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As someone with decision paralysis and executive dysfunction issues, this is true for me. I’m probably more than capable of using it for a daily driver but there are 5000 flavors and I will likely never be able to make a solid choice until one is obviously vastly superior in some way I need.

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Just use Ubuntu. It just works.

That’s what I use if I want to just get things done.

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Lemmy taught me I’ll go to Linux Hell for using Ubuntu.

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Why recommend Gnome as a windows alternative? Surely KDE is a much better option if you’re trying to make a windows user feel more familiar with the interface.

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My Ubuntu on a SBC for a workshop just killed itself on Monday. Had it for a few months, new SBC, fresh Ubuntu install, 0 customization, just using it occasionally for Chromium. It popped up a new version -Minotaur or something- was out, so I said sure upgrade. It gave an error for bash near the end, then bricked itself. Now i gotta dig out SD cards and find a new distro.

Fuck Ubuntu. Ends in misery every single time.

And no I don’t want any recommendations.

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TIL I haven’t had a home operating system for a quarter century.

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TIL you can’t read. I said most people. Not everyone.

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not supported by the VAST majority of home use software

Just want to say most people only need a browser, and it’s only going to continue on that path. That’s why ChromeOS works.

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To lump my own personal bitch onto this: liking a thing and bringing it up regardless of conversation or context isn’t a personality

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You are wrong. The reason that linux isn’t popularvis that windows comes preinstalled in computers and most people don’t know how to install an operating system pet along what an operating system is. Linux is dead easy nowadays, ao.much that my tech illiterate parents can use it, spread misinformation elsewhere

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I’ve seen more criticism of Lemmy’s Linux Problem, than I actually have seen LLP in action

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Trebek

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🤣

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Considering a lot of us are here from the Rexodus and have cake days coming up (or recently passed): Happy cake day.

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There was a general cake day thread recently on !casualconversation@lemm.ee

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Thanks, you too

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What should we call cake day on lemmy?, should we leave it alone or change it to be something more reflective of lemmy

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I’m content leaving it be. It rolls off the tongue and has the right meaning. I’m also not feeling creative enough at the moment to propose an alternative lol

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the main lemmy developers are evil people, and they also admin the lemmy.ml instance. Stay away. other lemmy instances are admired well enough, but look for a mbin instance just to give the lemmy devs less power.

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That’s the great part about the fediverse. We’re not bound to a specific app. I like Mbin myself.

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BUT they do share their software with everyone entirely for free so there’s that…:-)

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Damn commies should be rich as Crassus by now!

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That’s a big claim. Do you have evidence?

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https://lemmy.world/post/16211417 has some good discussion including evidence. You can normally see evidenc looking at moderation logs as well

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Is there a good/decent android app? I’m game to give things a try particularly because fuck lemmygrad jr (lemmy.ml)

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What’s the key difference with Kbin?

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Community development rather than just one guy - Mbin is a community fork of Kbin, made when he refused to share privileges and people got tired of the code always being so far behind.

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the kbin developer hasn’t done anything in months (some form of personal issues), and his instance has been offline all week. mbin is actually developed.

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What makes them “evil”?

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I see that there is a lot of posts removed due to breaking Rule 1, but I can’t see what community you posted to to check what rule they claimed you violated.

Please tell me what community you posted in so I can look at the rules and form an unbiased oppinion.

I did find other posts about how lemmy.world admins are terrible, but so far I have only seen anecdotes either way, and untill there are proven trends that tells me otherwise, I will refrain from bashing either side.

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Currently, lemmyverse.net doesn’t appear to be indexing mbin servers, which is a drawback for finding communities on them. It isn’t indexing all kbin servers, either, and the kbin results are only available via the hamburger menu, not mixed in with the lemmy results.

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Mbin is not lemmy. It interoperates with lemmy but is otherwise different. Thus they strictly should not. Though you can make an arguement they should, it is the decision of the site owners and so while I think they should index mbin I won’t fault them for not.

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Mbin is not lemmy.

No, but how many users out specifically want results from one instance type? I can imagine that someone might, but I’m pretty sure that virtually everyone is agnostic.

I don’t think that the lemmyverse.net guys are opposed to it. They did put in kbin support (though it seems to be partly broken ATM). I just think that it hasn’t been updated. And that makes it hard for mbin communities to get visibility.

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Has anyone forked lemmy yet and if so have instances switched over ?

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If you’ve ever said “cowabunga dude” unironically, it’s high time to schedule that prostate check.

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From “cowabunga, dude” to “ow, my bung-hole, dude!”

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