Update from Asus

The service team reply misunderstood the situation. Unlock tool is unavailable at this moment but we are allowing the possibility to unlock, please stay tuned.

**TL;DR

  • ASUS has apparently withdrawn the ability to unlock the bootloader on its phones.
  • As per the company’s technical support team, Zenfone 10 and Zenfone 9 users won’t be able to root their phones.
2 points

Tbh, it has been years since I last rooted a phone. There is hardly any reason left to do it tbh.

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2 points

Yes there is.

If you want a cfw, which you do because your phone either comes with 2 years of updates or has touchwiz.

If you run cfw you NEED safetynet. Even the witzair app crashes without it. If you cfw and need safetynet, you have to have magisk. Magisk needs root for the safetynetfix.

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7 points

Plenty of reasons.

  • System wide adblock
  • Advanced permission management
  • Backups and exports of system apps
  • Full uninstall of bloatware (instead of mere hiding them with adb)
  • Enabling screenshots system-wide

And a bunch of other stuff I need in order to have a fully functioning device.

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It doesn’t remove them, it uninstalls the app from the current user profile, but they persist on system level. That’s what I meant with the comment in brackets.

It’s the best you can do if rooting is not an option, but I prefer a full removal.

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  • Advanced permission management
  • Backups and exports of system apps

Two things previously possible in stock android (via appops & adb backups), but no longer possible to any realistic extent (particularly ADB backups, as most devs disable this for their apps). These are the main factors for me rooting personally

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I have been using an old samsung tablet with lineage os (android 12), but the last stock rom was android 6.

So yeah, for me the ability to unlock the boot loader is a must. And that’s not even mentioning getting away of spooky-ware I got as a gift a Huawei phone, really good phone but when I tried to search an app using the sistem laucher it fucking asked for a lot of data, fingerprints, etc. I was sorry to this person but I just sold it ASAP since I wasn’t able to install a Custom Rom to get away from all that crap.

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35 points

Simple fix: stop buying Asus phones. Once their profit drops they will let you unlock bootloader

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42 points

Locked bootloader and only 2 years of upgrades? Is not like Zenfones are cheap either. Hard pass!

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Some here are mixing bootloader unlocking with rooting. They’re not the same thing.

Asus broke bootloader unlocking, so you can only use the original ROM in the original state. You can’t install a custom ROM or flash something like Magisk to root your device.

You can unlock without rooting or without installing a custom ROM. You can install a custom ROM without rooting. You can use stock and root. And you can use a custom ROM and root. But all this is only possible if you can unlock the device’s bootloader.

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Also, something I don’t see people discuss enough: for security, you also need to be able to re-lock the bootloader after installing a custom ROM. Otherwise anyone can inject code into the system partition if they have physical access to your device, which would also compromise your encrypted storage. So if there’s no way to reverse the bootloader unlocking, that’s also bad.

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I feel eventually every company would do the same.

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I think it more likely we’ll get to the point where getting a key to unlock the bootloader requires some kind of bullshit businesses license, or else is only possible on higher end phones. Kind of like how Windows is increasingly walling options off from everyone except Enterprise users.

Or the end result of this eSIM shit comes to pass: unlocking the bootloader breaks the SIM and/or the carrier refuses to let it on the network.

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But do carriers really have a horse in this race? SIMs are separately secured so all they care about is having as many in use as possible. Whatever game of cat and mouse manufacturers choose to play with the users is their business.

I don’t think carriers will want the headache that comes with SIMs checking if they’re used on so-and-so devices, especially if it involves depending on a service they don’t control (like Google).

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Yeah, carriers want as many user as they can on their network. So no valid reason to block a user if they root their phone.

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