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the government just confirmed aliens are real another hack job with government connections is claiming that he was told by government official that alien “biologics” and space craft were recovered by the government without being able to provide evidence or details because it is “classified”

What a nothingburger

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he didn’t even say alien. “alien biologics” while meaningless, was a stronger assertion than he was willing to make. he said “non-human biologics”, which could mean anything from aliens to there was some grass there. he just left it vague and then people like OP who want the truth but also know exactly what they want the truth to be filled in the details using the twin powers of guessing and lying.

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8 points

And important to note: we’ve sent dogs to die in space

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3 points

Yeah this claim is extraordinary and requires evidence equally so

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2 points

more of a spunk sandwich

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Except his documents were all routed through the Intel Community Inspector General who sent them to congress calling them “urgent and credible.”

And his lawyers are former Inspector Generals.

You say this just because he didnt post things to wikileaks and defect to russia.

The mans trying to make sure he doesnt go to prison.

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Do you have some sources? Every time I’ve tried to look into it, I get garbage articles and no real information.

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Because the informations are hearsays from one man that may or may not be credible.

Basically it’s a premium “trust me bro”

For some it’s enough, for the majority it’s just another disappointing nothingburger

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https://thedebrief.org/fact-check-q-a-with-debrief-co-founder-and-investigator-tim-mcmillan-part-1/

This is the site that ran the original article prior to in televised interview.

This is part 1 of the fact checking / vetting they did on the whistleblower.

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The mans trying to make sure he doesnt go to prison.

He’s also clearly operating in such a way that this doesn’t get buried. People dismissing this lack an understanding of how things work in large bureaucracies/ have a fantasy version of how they think the world should work.

So much has come out already, but only for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.

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So much has come out already, but only for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.

And that, children, is how you know you’ve already been wearing tinfoil for far too long.

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So much has come out already, but only for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.

Only those who are willing to connect dots that shouldn’t be connected. It’s the same old conspiracy BS we’ve heard for decades.

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So much has come out already, but only for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.

When people say these kinds of platitudes what they really mean is they love jumping to conclusions based on flimsy evidence and then judge others for not doing so because they’re “programmed” or whatever.

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I wish more than anything that there was evidence of alien life that I could see with my eyes or hear with my ears. For now, we just have some dude saying things with no real evidence.

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but only for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.

And how lucky, that this applies to you huh? Having secret knowledge feels pretty good, I bet.

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you know another phrase for “truth that is only for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear”?

cult bullshit.

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Sure thing, Dingdong.

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The US Government did not say aliens exist. A former military officer said “nonhuman” biological material was in one of the craft they downed. That could mean someone put a monkey or a dog in a test vehicle, it could mean a bird flew into the thing.

Even if he was saying it’s aliens, testifying to congress is not the same thing as the government itself claiming aliens exist. They are reporting to the government, not making statements on behalf of the government.

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It could also mean a pile of dog poop

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B-but that’s now as fun!

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No, they didn’t. If they did it would be huge news.

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I’m a huge UFO nerd but even I realize all this story is full of shit.

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The aliens are real and they look like little red astronauts with a single half reflective spherical visor and floating hands. They came to me and beamed me up into there spaceship. Afterwards one of the aliens was found dead and after that they ejected another out into space.

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dont

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hmmm… sus tale

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They look like bacteria

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truly they are real, and they walk around near us…wait, shit…

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nothing new, theyve been investigating UFOs for a long time. heres some. the government itself hasnt specifically said aliens exist, but its kinda obvious from their documentation and history of handling these types of things.

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Because they ain’t confirmed shit

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I mean, setting aside the lack of actual evidence so far, what effect will it have on most of us? Is the world suddenly going to become a utopia because aliens have been here? At best we get some cool technology that governments and the rich will hoard; at worst we get conscripted to go kill them and take their shit, or are forced to defend ourselves from them trying to take our shit. I’ve never really understood why aliens imply anything other than that. The truth is, if they do have something truly transcendent to teach us, we ain’t ready for it. If we want to find the secrets of the universe we need to put our own house in order and do it ourselves. Aliens aren’t our space saviors.

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Why does everything need to have personal gain to matter at all. I get the whole “no actual evidence” part. But if we actually see aliens and you’re not impressed, I don’t think we can be friends. Don’t blame capitalism, you’re just lame. Sure, there are real problems, but people throughout history have had it far worse and still managed to care about things outside of their own tiny microcosm. Many people enjoy these things not in spite of but because of their personal struggles, as they can act as an escape for a short time. If you’re going to have economic troubles anyway, why spend all your time dwelling in it?

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I don’t think that person is talking about their personal thoughts, but more mankind as a whole.

As we operate now we would not have to tools to add anything meaningful to a galactic conversation.

We could all personally think it’s awesome, but as a people we are simply unequipped to deal with the consequences of meeting an extraterrestrial race.

People are sort of great individually, but collectively we’re horrific. We’d be trying to kill, enslave, or exploit any new species we came across. It’s what we do with new species. Hell it’s what we do to each other.

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True, it would be amazing. I’m just ambivalent about the long-term impact. Like, would much really change ultimately? I guess we’ve never experienced another species we could directly communicate ideas with. Maybe it would be more revolutionary than I can imagine.

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I keep hoping they’ll imprison us and keep me as their pet. I’d prefer that life.

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You can have that life now 👀

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4 points

Now kiss.

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The fact that they haven’t made contact with the entire globe in a way that is undisputable etc is proof that they are mostly apathetic.

This is why they mostly stick to military bases with nukes. Even their offensive technology is apathetic. Disrupting our electronics etc. They clearly don’t care.

With that said should we really call them aliens? Chances are they have been here longer than the entire history of the hominid line.

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Or maybe proof that, you know, they aren’t here and never were…

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Religions would have to wreckon with a lot of their foundations…

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“have to” is a bit strong. Religions ignore inconvenient truths about the world all the time. If aliens were confirmed to exist it wouldn’t be different. >

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Would they though? I feel like the biggest ones would accommodate this revelation. “Yes, extraterrestrials exist but WE are God’s chosen species” Same reason a lot of animals don’t get into heaven lol

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IIRC Mormons already believe God created multiple inhabited planets.

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