… and I can’t even continue the chat from my phone.

10 points

ignoring the fact that it’s absolutely horrid.

An install of ICUE on windows takes up multiple gigabytes. Why? Uhm, good question.

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they just went dd if=/dev/urandom count=1 bs=1G of=./ICUEAppData

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three times over, no less.

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Yeah, I’ve been having a lot of issues with Electron which is basically a browser emulator. It has gotten huge, so applications using it have gotten out of control in size. I get that it’s a quick way to build a cross platform application, but there really needs to either be a better way to distribute it that is more modular, or people need to start building on better cross platform front-end systems.

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i am doing a full system upgrade and something wants to build chromium from source. i let it run in the background and cloning the repository alone has downloaded 33GB wtf 😭

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Yeah, I had to move away from Arch Linux because lots of apps you have to build and Electron was one of the biggest culprits for using tons of disk space and time because it builds Chromium in its entirety from source. Electron is a great way to shift the cost of cross platform development from you to your customers.

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and it also runs like shit too.

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Signal package has Electron (which is built on top of Chromium and NodeJS) + Signal app code and assets. So not surprised that it’s bigger than Chromium.

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Harddrives start at 16€/TB, so 500MB would be 0.008€. SSDs start at 50€/TB, so it would be 0.025€ or two-and-a-half cents

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yes but think about how much money writing 500MB worth of code would cost.

I realize it’s not all code, and some of it is already written, but please, muse me, and do the math for it.

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Writing less code costs more money. The programm is large because they slapped some existing stuff together instead of writing everything from scratch

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there is an inevitable cost to written code though, it simply cannot be computed away. In this case the cost is just a shitty application with an even shittier user experience.

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Me putting a 4 TB 3.5" HDD in my phone

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Why are you installing Signal Desktop on your phone?

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You got me there

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I don’t think people are worried about storing hundreds of Signal instances, this isn’t a photo backup.
The concerns are bloat, optimisation, and memory usage.

Also, HDDs can go from $7.5/TB

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That’s the point. The storage is a bad metric. While it might indicate poor performance, it’s not a direct indication of poor performance. The bloat and optimization comes from the usage of Electron. And people use Electron because it’s far easier to make cross-platform deployments for Web and desktop using a framework like Electron. Show me the QT/JavaFX app that mimics Signal and we can compare the cost to develop it. Electron isn’t the best choice for memory usage and reducing bloat, but it’s the best choice for quick development (in my opinion but also proven out by the market share it has)

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Haha, WeChat is even more outrageous than this. All your forwarded files will be automatically stored again. Your chat records will always be stored on the disk, but WeChat will tell you that the chat records have expired. In addition, it has recently been discovered that every Once you log in to WeChat, your avatar will be saved more than ten times

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You can actually delete the data for good in both the android and windows software through the interface, and it works. But yeah the amount of data is staggering.

I’ve got a reminder in my calendar to delete the data on the first day of a new quarter, so this here is accumulated since April 1st:

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“android is good” mfers when they have to manually set a calendar task to notify themselves to manually delete the bloated information for an app that they have installed.

no shade to you specifically, but it pisses me off how much android users circle jerk over it being better than IOS, even though it’s like, moderately less annoying.

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iphone mfs when they have to read the word android

insert weird rambling about superiority while feeling superior themselves

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I can automatically clean up space, or restrict space used, but then I don’t get to choose who’s data to keep or.

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Calm down children, they both suck. Now put the rulers away.

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