20 points

If this means that I might be able to use NFC payments because alternatives to Google Pay will exist, I am very happy. Hopefully this will also make possible to F-droid to provide auto updates.

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9 points

Huh…my F-Droid already does auto updates 🤔

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1 point

Unattended? Unrooted? What Android version?

I still have to confirm each install, wich is a bit tedious, and was looking around for a new phone.

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2 points

Yes, yes and 14.

It is related to android version IIRC.

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4 points

Yes I realized that, the one that doesn’t is Aurora I think

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9 points

Until earlier this year, I could make NFC payments with the app of my credit card company. AFAIK contactless payments on Android were never locked to Google Pay/Wallet. But I have no idea why there’s no competition in this space. I’d expect e.g. PayPal to have something, but if they do I never heard of it - and I did look once, briefly.

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Because to implement this you need to negotiate with individual credit card issuers. Basically how this works is that your phone is being issued a virtual card with the keys locked inside the phone’s HSM. Then it can be used to make NFC payments just like any physical card. So you need 1. contracts with many card providers, 2. card issuance processes with these providers 3. huge amounts of compliance bureaucracy. At the end of the day it isn’t really worth it unless you are a huge company and expect to have tons of users or see it as an essential feature of your phone OS.

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You mean the thing any credit card issuer does anyway?

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It seems many banks/providers used to had this functionality and just stopped maintaining in favor of Google/Apple Pay.

Hopefully they decide to do it again.

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4 points

Why would they do that when Google and Apple already do all the work for them?

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2 points

Paypal has a nfc feature

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For generic contactless payments at shops? Or some closed system that only works with other PayPal users?

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4 points

I’m confused why would you need a phone to pay via NFC. All you need is your card.

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Some countries have limits to nfc payments with a card. Finland has 50e but with a phone no limits (unless the bank limits).

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1 point

Much higher floor limit, and no need to enter your PIN every X transactions.

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  1. I can usually pull out my phone faster than taking a card out of my wallet.
  2. Phone-based cards typically have significantly higher limits than physical cards. (I can tap hundreds of dollars with my phone, only about $100 on my card.)
  3. The phone needs to be unlocked which is safer than the card which just needs to be tapped with no other authentication.
  4. One less thing to carry around.
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I use phone every day at office so I don’t need to get the wallet out of my jacket when going to the canteen to buy lunch. It’s literally the reason I started using my phone to pay. Too many times I forgot my card…

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I’m confused why you would assume that there isn’t any context where someone might need to store their cards on their phone instead of carrying a wallet. Have you considering asking why instead of assuming everyone is like you? Is amazing when you get to know other perspectives.

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Last I checked making a statement stating that you’re confused about something counts, semantically, as a question. No question mark needed.

But, fine, if you don’t want to tell me you don’t have to. I’m able to contain my curiosity. Certainly can’t put my ID, driver’s license, cash, and a hair tie into my phone. Nor, for that matter, put my phone into an ATM.

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The funny thing is that this is probably lobbying from NTT Docomo, who lost their own app store monopoly for feature phones the moment smartphones arrived.

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23 points

That’s nice. Let the in fighting begains.

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6 points

I just hope they’ll let non-profit app stores join. I just want an open source package manager tbh.

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11 points

It’s like reading interdimensional news from a world that is still sane. I’m glad Japan exists

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i can assure you japan isn’t that much saner than the rest of us, like really the one big thing they have going for them is pretty good urban planning and public transport.

Where most nations have people working their asses off because they need money to buy food, japan made the innovation of having people work themselves to death mostly out of social obligation instead! Much more exciting.

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No, Japan just listened to the previous app market monopoly that was NTT Docomo and other providers who wanted their money pot back.

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51 points

Apple: ‘Mobile platform? Nah this is just a game console’ winks at Nintendo and Sony

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I would pay a lot of money to see Nintendo’s conniption over having to allow home brew and non-approved software on their game consoles. I would love to release emulators for older Nintendo consoles for the Switch so that they don’t get to keep charging people again to play old games on newer consoles.

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15 points

Japan: Checkmate

:: Reveals 10X more laws regulating game consoles ::

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How so? Honest question, I can’t seem to find anything that is not super pro-corporations like the prohibition on modding consoles with tens of thousands dollar fines or even prison sentences…

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8 points

haha no source, just a dumb joke.

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7 points

Not directly related to mobile devices, but I found it really weird that lots of Japanese games on steam have a Japanese only version, that can’t be sold outside of Japan. I’m really not sure if the benefit of that partitioning, but it probably comes from some of the issues they’re facing in the mobile market

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part of the reason for that iirc is japan has different laws and management when it comes to it.

in context of steam, its usually because japanese managment to launch games on steam is a different person for global organizations, and is usually incompetent. sometimes, the reason is a tually laws about voice/music licensing rights specific to japan

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