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I’m with you on what the meme is trying to say, but the bottom track needs to be shown looping around to the Republican track and running over everyone.

Because that’s where the third track leads.

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Yep, not voting is unironically pretty much the same as voting for the party you least want in charge.

Because you’re making it that much more likely.

Don’t throw away a right that your ancestors fought for, as it may result in future generations no longer having that right.

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Hitler’s government was a popular government; the vast majority of Germans preferred the rule of gangsters to the effort of thinking and doing for themselves. They abdicated their franchise.

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The former Berlin businessman I referred to earlier told me that he blamed his own group, people with the time and the money and the opportunity to know better, for what happened to Germany. “We ignored Hitler,” he said. “We considered him an unimportant fellow, not quite a gentleman, not of our own class. We considered it just a little bit vulgar to bother with him, to bother with politics at all.”

They thought of the government as “They.” The only possible route to a clear conscience in politics is to accept political responsibility, either as an active member of the party in power or as an equally active member of the loyal opposition.

—Robert A. Heinlein, Take Back Your Government

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Similarly, MLK saw “the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice” as the biggest impediment to civil rights.

The bottom line is that being secure enough in your position in society to think you don’t have to engage in politics, or that you can afford to vote your principles instead of tactically, is itself a form of privilege. Those sorts of privileged people think themselves neutral or uninvolved or maybe (in the case of professed leftists refusing to vote Dem as a protest) on their own third side, but the reality is that they are the right-wing authoritarians’ greatest ally every single time.

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That’s not how it went, though. It’s, in fact, the opposite of how it went. Hitler had relatively little popular support, but full support of the industrial elite. It’s blaming the people for the crimes of the elite. “They abdicated their franchise” no, fuckface, half of them voted communist. “We ignored Hitler” no, fuckface, you put him in power because you thought he’d be malleable.

I’m not surprised Heinlein bought it, though. And I’m not surprised people here are buying it.

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It’s funny that both democrats and third party voters will look at your comment and think you’re on their side.

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Well, mathematically it’s only half as bad.

-1 lesser evil +1 greater evil

Vs.

-1 lesser evil +0 greater evil

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Your math is wrong. You wouldn’t be cancelling out the greater evil with the vote for the lesser evil, so its actually twice as bad (or 4x what you were thinking).

0 lesser evil +1 greater evil

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Well, I didn’t intend on voting for Trump but, fine, you’ve convinced me.

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Hey, as long as you vote. Everyone should vote.

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Yes, you of course weren’t already going to do that. 🙄

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55 points

Like so?
Also, let’s have 'im on the track too.

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“Oh, no, I’m not in any of those groups on the track, so I can safely not vote and have a clear conscience as it crushes everyone!”

Then they came for me…

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“All men were created equal”

IS SLAVE STATE

always jave been coming for us.

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What a sad misunderstanding of a quote literally describing state enforced genocide. I mean, this is how it starts. Both sides would kill Palestinians. Can’t do anything about it I guess. Oh well, best not put my foot down and take a principled stand here.

Who’s next?

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As someone who for the first time did not vote in 2016. I started voting in the Bush era. I fully agree, no action leads to fascism apparently. Don’t do what I did because I was pissed that Bernie was cheated out of the nomination. Vote or Trump will be back in office.

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Doesn’t matter where the track leads if the trolley can’t get to it. It could lead to rainbows and sunshine, but that isn’t where the trolley is headed because there is no possibility that someone other than Trump or Biden is elected president. A few cry babies voting third party won’t get some third person elected. A vote for the third track is a vote for a track that will not be ridden.

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It could be a little model trolley track going in a loop with no trolley on it.

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Oh, maybe. I assumed it was two different people, but yeah, that makes sense.

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It makes sense because you can see that the track exists and is better, but there’s no way to actually get the train onto it

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the bottom track needs to be shown looping around to the Republican track

Okay, but the guy at the controls needs to be the swing vote on the SCOTUS.

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I’m guessing the joke is that third party voters ignore the trolley about to go down one of two paths, instead deciding to stand next to a short piece of track connected to nothing with no trolley on it, so they can pretend the imminent disaster happening on the other track isn’t real

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And there’s also a contingent of people on the trolley who are trying to get it to slow down, working their asses off to improve long term actual outcomes in the real world, whether related or not to the little lever, and the guy standing next to the empty disconnected track is claiming to be one of them and saying you must be against them and how dare you, you person-running-over-enabling monster, if you say anything against his strategy.

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This is why I, as an autistic person, think internally using a sort of infinite mechanical analog diagram sheet thing.

Physical analogies are beautiful for how quickly they can convey a concept. Those disconnected tracks are a great representation of the third party voting situation we face, the “throwaway vote” problem.

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I like the disconnected track because I didn’t even notice it for like 20 seconds of looking at the image.

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I support voting Democrat in this situation but after the election, people should support fair vote us to get ranked voting.

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And I thought this was perfect for demonstrating why people avoiding the donkey track for a single issue, no matter how bad, really need to look at the rest of the video picture, the state of the other choices

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Funny thing is, that’s what’s called a controlled derailment. It’s the engineering answer to the situatuon, if the situation were real and not a contrived philosophical dilemma.

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This guy gets it

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The Biden approach

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