Lindsey Graham, what a sniveling little shitweasel.
That’s right, US isn’t fighting for some values or abstract freedoms, it’s fighting to secure the right of the oligarchs to plunder the resources of Ukraine. Anybody who still doesn’t understand this has a brain as smooth as a bowling ball.
It originally was trying to plunder the resources of Russia again, like they did in the 90’s. They miscalculated and now are settling for Ukraine.
That was supposed to be the big prize, and Balkanizing Russia would allow US to surround China with puppet regimes in the west. RAND even helpfully outlined the strategy in a paper they published back in 2019 https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html
Mmm Russian propagandists going hard today, or rather, as hard as ever, ensuring to amplify the messages of individuals who already have questionable allegiance to the US in the first place. Just keep in mind the Ukrainians still want to fight. It’s not like the US are the ones trying to kill the Ukrainian president to get their way.
individuals who already have questionable allegiance to the US
He’s protecting US global financial interests. How is his allegiance any less than any other senator? Substantiate this.
Just keep in mind the Ukrainians still want to fight.
Americans still wanted to fight at the end of the Vietnam war. I can show you many statements. The question is which Ukrainians. Substantiate this.
It’s not like the US are the ones trying to kill the Ukrainian president to get their way.
The US has tried to assassinate foreign leaders for political convenience 100s of times over the past 100 years. The US is morally inferior to Russia, which is already incredibly morally corrupt.
Which Ukrainians want to fight until they’re all dead, the ones kept in the country by closed borders, the ones who are press ganged into service by conscription “recruiters”?
Russian propagandists
I love that you think you’re like idk not some brainwashed idiot (like we are ofc) when, due to propaganda, you literally write off anyone critical of NATO’s imperialism as “Russian propagandists”
Super great display of critical thinking
Polling in Ukraine consistently puts approval of Zelensky’s handling of the war at around 90%.
Please actually try listening to the people you’re speaking on behalf of before you speak.
Just keep in mind the Ukrainians still want to fight.
The Azov Battalion still wants to fight, maybe. It might be more accurate to say that the Ukrainian government still wants its conscripts to fight.
Will you stop lying already. The regime the west installed in Ukraine is literally kidnapping people off the street and forcing them to fight. Even western propagandists are now admitting this, yet here you are spreading blatant misinformation https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/15/world/europe/ukraine-military-recruitment.html
Pretty similar to the US invasion of Ukraine in 2014 where the President left in desperation to prevent his murder. Two wrongs definitely don’t make a right, but after the US overthrew the country’s government they should have understood they were going to encounter retaliation at some point.
Yeah buddy, the US invaded Ukraine in 2014 lmao
I realize you’re going to try to come back at me with a bunch of “evidence” that the US worked with and supported the Maidan, but that’s all true. What’s also true is that the Ukrainian people are the ones who actually did the work there.
When Russia invaded Ukraine in Feb 2022, it was Russians invading. Physically invading with tanks, infantry, and artillery. In the Maidan in 2014, the Ukrainian people revolted against their government after it abandoned efforts to align with Europe in favor of aligning with Russia. The Ukrainian people want to align with Europe and the West.
Ok, so you’re super critical only to concepts which oppose the side of the story you believe to be true? Have you ever applied this same level of scrutiny to the information you approve of? Until this takes place, you can’t logically be confident in your stance whatsoever. But, do whatever makes you happy, I won’t argue against it. Yet it’s ridiculous to write off anything in opposition just cause it’s not as you understand it.
Here’s the sources you more or less asked for, I made sure it’s from mainstream sources seeing as you’re opposed to independent media for whatever reason.
UK Government coving Ukraine in 2014: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9476/
Here’s a NewYorker article covering it too: https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/why-john-mearsheimer-blames-the-us-for-the-crisis-in-ukraine
Oh yay it’s Che Banana again. I’ll take Robert Scheer over US corporate media any day of the week.
Here are some uncontroversial Wikipedia entries for you. Bog-standard stuff that’s taught in schools of marketing, public relations, political science, history, and journalism.
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Bringing peace is surprisingly lucrative – for weapons contractors, black rock and now the mining industry, huh 🙈
