134 points

There are two kinds of Republicans—billionaires and suckers

He proves he’s a sucker, because a real fascist would know never to ask to be proven wrong

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31 points

FINO

Fascist In Name Only.

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man i just spent like an hour in the bathtub reading further into this and belly laughing

i will say though that i think the guy who sold mike lindell the ‘data’ that he’s referring to in the challenge might actually be a genius lol. this is apparently the third or fourth time he’s identified someone who needs some kind of technological hail mary and then he just shows up and is like “i have… the data”. he sold proof that obama faked his birth certificate and also sold a bunch of completely bogus software to the pentagon during the post-9/11 defense industry boom such as software that “decodes” al jazeera broadcasts into secret al qaeda messages. an employee of his testified that he doesn’t even have an IDE installed on his computer. he’s literally made tens of millions of dollars off of this grift and despite being basically constantly legally embattled for the past 20 years has apparently not suffered any consequences. i wish him a long and successful career being the smartest dumb guy in the room

mike lindell actually comes away from this looking almost sympathetic because he is so, so clearly a moron whose conception of data is like, a PS1-era spinning icon of a CD-ROM. it’s very hard for me to guess whether or not he was acting in good faith: on the one hand, the logical thing to do with proof of election tampering is not ‘announce a five million dollar challenge for someone to prove that i don’t have it’, but on the other hand, it doesn’t make any fucking sense to do that if you don’t think you have proof either. either way i would love to know how much money he paid for it (by the way, the data is: a text file with a list of IP addresses in mainland china, a PDF with a ‘graphic depiction of voting machines’, and many terabytes of gibberish binary files timestamped to several days before the challenge was set up). look at this quote the guy is literally zoolander stupid

“I said, ‘Wow!’ This would absolutely explain what I couldn’t explain!” Lindell recalled in an interview. “It was done with computers! I knew that was the only explanation."

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The votes were IN the computers all along?

Smartmaticsonite… I was WAYYY off!

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32 points

My favorite part is that the lawsuit is being brought by a Trump voter.

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21 points

“Let them fight!”

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17 points

What’s hilarious is that they all seem to have proof of all these things, but they never release any of it.

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9 points

Wait…there is money in manufacturing false data to sell to these fascists?

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7 points

Oh, if only my moral compass was just a bit weaker. The TSA spent about a decade after its conception trying to find a magic box that identifies terrorists in airports. The millimeter wave scanners are the most successful thing to come out of the entire effort. Those at least sorta work, and most of the rest on the list are far worse than that. Made a bunch of people a lot of money, though.

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3 points

Security theater, just like signatures for credit cards. At least they’re doing away with those.

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I don’t know if it is unethical. They want a narrative and you sold it to them. Is making a superhero movie unethical? Is roleplay in the bedroom unethical? You are taking money away from fascists which is always a good thing.

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5 points

Want good reads to recommend concerning this?

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sorry im not sure if you’re asking or offering. if you’re offering then absolutely, hit me. if you’re asking then these two are pretty good:

https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada-companys-troubles-entangle-gibbons-federal-government/

https://www.npr.org/2009/12/19/121667905/the-man-who-conned-the-pentagon

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Sorry, autocorrect screwed me. I was asking if you had any good reads to recommend. Thanks!

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Dude is a clown.

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The fact that he did a “prove me wrong” instead of a “here’s the proof” tells me, at minimum, had a suspicion that the proof had no merit.

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No, he admitted at some point the “5 mil to prove me wrong” was a publicity stunt to drum up media coverage of his conference.

He thought it was impossible to prove a negative, but in this case the data was so clearly unrelated to any election, much less election fraud, the judge found that the confrence go-er had proved him wrong.

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an employee of his testified that he doesn’t even have an IDE installed on his computer.

that doesn’t make him not a programmer, plenty of linux pilled programmers don’t use IDEs.

Hell some of the really prominent ones use shit like text mate, DHH for example.

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What I find fascinating is the total number of numbskulls and cartoon villains, all collected under the Trump banner, and that lunatic mob may very well take government.

What’s the hell wrong with American voters?

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They are in a conservative news bubble or they don’t pay much attention to things that don’t directly affect them and attribute those that do to the wrong party. Or they’re just greedy or racist. Or stupid.

Take your pick, mix and match.

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18 points

I’ll go with answer E: all of the above

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2 points

You forgot wrapped up in culture wars.

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32 points

Southern Strategy and decades of Fox News.

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True. I’m gonna go out on a limb and add another reason: Money in politics.

When I was a kid, if a politician was accused of taking bribes, they would fall over themselves to deny the accusation. Later, the politician would simply reply, “It was pay for access, not a bribe.”
Now, they don’t even respond to such accusations. Bribes are so normalized that we don’t even notice them anymore.

(For the pendants, yes there are pols that are occasionally punished for literally accepting bribes, some recently. My point is that there is little difference between literally accepting money and storing it in a freezer and having several billionaires fund your re-election campaign with dozens of legal loopholes.)

This allows The Rich to have a very heavy hand on the tiller for which way elections go. If rich folks weren’t pouring big money into elections (corporations are people too!) I’m willing to bet at least one political party in the US would be dead now.

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25 points

My coworker is going to vote for Trump because gas prices went up in the last 4 years.

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36 points

I think you need to be intentionally naive, or just an absolute shitbag, to want to vote for lower gas prices at the cost of increased human suffering. Let alone whether it’s something Trump could even deliver.

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13 points

Also, consider what was going on 4 years ago: COVID. Gas prices went up because people are using their vehicles again , and because of that, oil isn’t in the negatives and gas prices rise.

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1 point

Cough…Iraq war…cough

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34 points

thats not why he’s voting for trump

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8 points

Well that’s the public reason they are voting for Trump.

The private reason is that they are a boot licking fascist.

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18 points

What’s the hell wrong with American voters?

Rage at a system that doesn’t work and dreaming of being a person who doesn’t have to apologize for anything. There is a reason why crime movies, games, and TV shows are so popular. It isn’t that most people want to be going around murdering all day, it is they want to be able to.

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On average, insufficient education and critical thinking skills because of a quasi-oligarchy that favors lots of desperate people to keep unskilled labor costs down. These oligarchs are also in league with sociopath religious leaders who know that religious recruitment is higher when life is miserable. Because 80% of our leadership are effectively solipsists, little is done to improve anything long term because it doesn’t benefit them immediately or personally.

Based on the probabilities we can derive from examining history, the situation will have to deteriorate for a few more generations before a widespread radical event changes key aspects of civilization. We should all try to change things now in less destructive and less risky ways, but I fear it won’t work.

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lots of desperate people to keep unskilled labor costs down

America needs more unions sooo badly

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79 points

Having heard him make a deposition, Lindell’s the kind of guy I could see insisting on representing himself against better judgement.

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There’s no better judgement than Mike Lindell’s judgement. That’s a lumpy MyPillow guarantee!

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12 points

You… you’ve seen his commercials right? He seems like not only the kind of guy who would represent himself, but he would also be on a ton of cocaine when he does it.

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I think his cocaine use is determined by if he’s writing a book at the time or not?

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5 points

Can you practically represent yourself (as a non-lawyer) in a court as high as what he needs to appeal? They will throw it out on procedure grounds alone right?

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5 points

I don’t think he can. I seem to recall businesses aren’t allowed to represent themselves in court.

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6 points

He’s going to end up with an overworked public defender.

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71 points

Ya’ll should watch some of his ‘broadcasts’.

Not, like, the whole things.

Tommy Campbell’s YT channel does basically recaps of the stupidest shit the stupid MAGA clowns do and… well Mr. Lindell features quite often.

Lindell is basically the most perfect stereotype for a loser idiot boomer that lucked his way into being a business owner, and he is of course astoundingly technically incompetent.

There are at this point running gags with a number of words that he seemingly is incapable of pronouncing correctly, the guy produces moron clips at such a rate Im surprised he isnt a number of widely used meme formats.

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incapable of pronouncing correctly

Lonely bookish kids, grown men who do not listen to anyone else, ESL adults who had to pick up the language without help. Take a guess which one of the three he is.

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Alex, I’ll be forgoing your 3 options and asking instead “What is an obviously still using cocaine addict?”

He might have graduated from the rock to the powder, but at this rate he’ll either be incarcerated or back to the rock soon.

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What is with angry men and cocaine? It’s like a chicken and egg problem.

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4 points

sounds amazing. can you put up a link?

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Sure!

https://m.youtube.com/@tommycampbell

I am on mobile but the url should fix itself.

Another running bit he does is…

Ok, so he calls it a ‘special version’ of Lauren Boebert’s autobiography.

I think what this means its that the only editorializing is that he adds ‘It was like a fairy tale.’ at the end of all of the maybe couple of pages he reads, which presumably would not actually be in the actual book.

But you see, I cannot actually tell how much of the rest of what he is reading is direct from the book and hammed up for effect.

She comes across as having the writing ability of maybe an 8th grader… and the stories are so absolutely absurd… but the problem is that Lauren Boebert is so fucking absurd, I cannot reliably draw a line between what Boebert has written, and what Campbell is hamming up.

Its … its like reading a diary of the villain from mean girls, except she’s a hick, regularly does crimes, has the trashiest life imaginable, she has infinite self confidence and is somehow self aware but also not self aware at the same time.

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thanks man! I’ll check it out

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