A company that achieved success due to people having to WFH are now forcing staff back in to the office

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Oh what irony

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it is to ride in a one-horse open sleigh. HEY!

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Yeah, you would think a company that would promote remote working would be company that creates tools for remote working.

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6 points

These people only care about the supposed “productivity loss” that is supposedly introduced from remote work.

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5 points

Studies have literally done nothing but show that people are just as or more productive wfh than in office

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117 points

Somebody should tell them about that software you can use for video teleconferences in case that opens up options for remote work. Can’t remember what it’s called though.

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60 points

Teams, right?

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29 points

Skype IIRC

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19 points

Nah they clearly use Cisco Webex.

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12 points

The one that is going to use all the data for AI training? They are not that stupid. ;-)

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3 points

To be fair, I’m certain they have a way to, like, exclude internal conversations from that. They’d be foolish not to have a system to disable collection on some accounts/calls

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2 points

They rolled out encryption a while back, they wouldn’t have access to fully encrypted ones anyways

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5 points

Google meet?

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No, those types of apps are obviously not useful for remote work, or else they would use one. Back to work.

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92 points

That’s just bad PR. I can’t imagine the potential profits are worth the risk.

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71 points

It’s been proven over and over remote work retains top talent and makes people better at their work. And the “productivity loss” is covered by the fact that people maybe get less done in eight hours, but work longer to make up for the productivity they lost to taking more breaks.

But American capitalism has to remind the workers that their misery is part of the point.

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34 points

I’m not sure there is any productivity loss, I work way more efficiently at home

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21 points

If you had kids, pets, etc, you might find yourself taking more breaks. But breaks are probably good for productivity too…

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21 points

Same. Guy that sits behind me in the office has an average speaking volume of 78 decibels. Yes, I pulled out a sound meter one day because he is so goddamn loud. And I’m stuck in an open floor plan with him.

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The productivity loss takes place at the office. You go from being able to solve problems all day to having Susie Homemaker and Joe Blob wanting to talk to you about the sportsball event when you’re in the middle of super complicated logic. You go from being able to use the restroom 30 seconds from your desk to walking 10 minutes to get to the closest one at the office. You go from making a quick sandwich and then getting back to work, to driving miles away to find something decent to eat. Every engineer I know is more productive at home.

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49 points

More likely, they’ve reached critical mass and are now using this as a downsizing move. They know a % will quit. Will reduce the number they have to float until eventual layoffs.

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28 points

Aren’t they risking losing their most talented workers doing that? I assume they can more easily find jobs providing the flexibility they’re looking for.

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3 points

Guess who gets exceptions to the policy?

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43 points

I work in tech, at one of the big tech companies (the Rainforest one).

The dirty little secret of tech is that you don’t need the best engineers. You just need people that are “good enough”, and that bar varies wildly across all of tech. I’ve worked with senior engineers from Google that absolutely crumbled outside of building Python web apps, and recent grads in LCOL areas that are better in all areas.

Alongside this, many tier 1 services in big tech are propped up by mid-level engineers. Depending on the company and org, you’d be shocked at how little coding some software engineers actually do, because they’re attending WBR’s, building review decks, running all scrum ceremonies, even responsible for multimillion dollar team budgets. Again, many of these people aren’t particularly talented compared to your standard engineer.

You’re absolutely right, but I doubt any big tech company cares. They want to reduce human cost as much as possible, and if that means letting everyone that knows how shit works go, and hiring new grads to keep your systems alive, so be it.

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29 points

This is so deliciously hypocritical.

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This is just epic shortsightedness.

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