A solid majority of Americans say Supreme Court justices are more likely to be guided by their own ideology rather than serving as neutral arbiters of government authority, a new poll finds, as the high court is poised to rule on major cases involving former President Donald Trump and other divisive issues.

The survey from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that 7 in 10 Americans think the high court’s justices are more influenced by ideology, while only about 3 in 10 U.S. adults think the justices are more likely to provide an independent check on other branches of government by being fair and impartial.

The poll reflects the continued erosion of confidence in the Supreme Court, which enjoyed broader trust as recently as a decade ago. It underscores the challenge faced by the nine justices — six appointed by Republican presidents and three by Democrats — of being seen as something other than just another element of Washington’s hyper-partisanship.

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9/9 supreme court justices think you are a worthless little bitch and you can’t do shit to stop them.

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Took just 29 mins for a

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Nobody is trying to say both sides are the same. I am saying the supreme court is not working for us and they know they can get away with it.

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Saying 9/9 justices don’t give a shit is disingenuous to say the least. In case you forgot 6 >3, here’s a refresher course on something you should have learned in 1st grade math.

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You said all 9 justices thoughts are the same on citizens. I feel this isn’t true compared to how they vote, but maybe you have inside information.

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That’s not at all what they’re saying, IHeartCheese is saying you, the citizen, don’t have power over the SCOTUS.

But you’d be right as in both sides are ideological, how else do you think they decide which interpretation to use if not by ideology?

Or are you one of those libs who doesn’t think they have ideology?

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This comment really feels like “I’m making all my decisions based on ideology therefore everyone does”

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It’s a big club but you ain’t in it

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Theres no such thing as an impartial person.

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The difference is at least some of us recognize our bias and work to mitigate its effects while the rest of us don’t even know there’s supposed to be a difference.

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This is true. It can be strived for, though, and there are strategies to overcome bias, increase impartiality, and identify bias in others. If the United States supreme court (and really its legal system too) had any integrity, it would champion doing so.

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If the United States supreme court (and really its legal system too) had any integrity, it would champion doing so.

I think most of the liberal justice would argue the court is and that’s the problem. The keystone of Originalist philosophy is that judges should be impartial and leave policy decisions to the people (except when the constitution prohibits restrictions). To do that they are supposed to follow the original meaning, not the contemporary understanding.

In Living Constitutionalism judges are expected to apply their own personal standards and worry about the practical reproductions (that they for see).

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I think the best strategy is to assume the worst. Assume that theyll take whatever bribes they can get away with, empower their political party however they can, seek to harm groups theyre hateful towards, etc. Restrict what they can get away with, do not permit any self accountability, keep the roster changing so corrupt roots cant go deep.

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I like pineapple on my pizza. Therefore, I rule that everyone else must always eat pineapple on their pizza. The Constitution doesn’t say anything about pizza, so this is totally okay and exactly what the “Founders” wanted.

This is not, and never was, merely an issue of “being an impartial person”… but believing that you can and should be able to force your own partial views onto others - sometimes under threat of state violence - even when those views directly contradict the obvious letter and intent of our Constitution.

“Ideology over impartiality” means “they rule by fiat, rather than by any principle of justice.”

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Its not believing they can, they just can.

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Nobody cares what the majority of Americans think Karen

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7/10 Americans are aware / woke.

The owners, “Stop being aware, go back to being a cog in the machine. Stop reading the founders intent that we can overthrow them. That’s against the law and the law is what we will use to enforce our ideologies upon you.”

The “war against woke” is a war against awareness.

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I don’t know that this is the case. It’s roughly like 33% of the people say the judges are too liberal because they’re liberal, another 33% say the judges are to conservatives because they’re conservatives, and another 33% don’t have a clue. That ~66% of conservative + liberal aggregated are the 7/10. I wouldn’t call it woke, I would call it opposing opinions on what side the judges are one and the perspective of the respondent.

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Too bad the system is designed by the founders so that 70% of the people are guaranteed in perpetuity to always have less than 50% of the power, and thus never get what they want.

This was done to keep slavery in place.

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I would say it’s a war against knowledge and critical thinking. Those two things threaten their control and reasoning. Why else fear books or competing ideologies?

It’s one thing for the deer to see headlights coming at it. It’s another for it to know what it means and what it should do.

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It’s deeper than that for some. You could allegorically describe that awareness as the fruit of the tree of goodness and evil. Temptation from Satan and they will burn in hell if they accept it.

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I think that is what stembolts is saying. Awareness is borne from knowledge and critical thinking.

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There needs to be some sort of great awakening or something…

/s

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For anyone interested in the changes in the Court here’s a video of two of the former justices explaining the different perspectives between living constitutionalism and originalism. Right now there’s a shift from one to the other. Just like there was a shift around the 50s.

https://youtu.be/jmv5Tz7w5pk

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