15 points

ITT: I haven’t personally experienced it so this is not true.

I wonder if y’all realize how like conservatives you are sometimes.

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I get what you are implying but it really isn’t relevant. Economics is just someone’s opinion at best, more often than not it is propaganda, lying with math. Not at all the same as the vaccine nutters or global warming denying.

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Personal experience, speaking with the community and hearing their experiences mean nothing. Believe what the owner class says at all times.

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This is hilarious because I’ll tell you the exact same thing I told conservatives during COVID:

I’ll take data over your anecdotes, thanks.

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I like data as well.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-labor-force-participation-rate.htm

You will notice that not only has the US not returned to pre-housing crisis levels it hasn’t even returned to March 2020 levels.

Now go ahead and try to hand wave this way.

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The article is real and “shit still sucks” can both be true.

My thought upon reading the headline was “gonna need another 12 years before people start thinking we have turned the corner for the better.”

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If an effect is that minor it could be statistical noise.

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The hole was really deep. And that inflation from Covid didn’t go away. Beating inflation now does not negate losing to inflation then. You have to beat inflation that much harder to both gain now and make up for previous losses.

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I got some oceanfront property in Arizona. I’d be glad to sell you.

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And your employer will be happy to give you a raise that is less than the statistical average of other people.

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Too bad the inflation number they’re using is exactly what the whole ‘lies, damn lies, and statistics’ saying is talking about.

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yeah my raises have been like 2% still and food is double what it used to be.

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The article is talking macroeconomics, you’re talking microeconomics. Two different worlds.

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That’s not incompatible with what they said. They’re saying that the rate of wage increases over the last year outpaced inflation. They also ran below inflation during the COVID-19 crisis.

COVID-19’s impact started in 2020.

looks at graph in article

Okay, though it looks like inflation only took off in early 2021.

They’re saying that from June 2023 to June 2024, real wages increased. But they also decreased for about two years prior to that, from a couple months into 2021 until about halfway through 2023 – you can see the dark blue line being below 0 for that period (or, equivalently, that the medium blue line was above the light blue line). Halfway through 2023, it then rises above 0, and has been above since that point. But the period of time that it was decreasing (a bit over two years) was about twice as long as the one year that it’s been increasing, and during that decrease period, was decreasing faster than it increased over the last year. So they’re rebounding, but they won’t be where they were immediately prior to the crisis.

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So, basically, they’re not saying anything worthy of a headline, much less a whole article. Thanks for letting us know… smdh.

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Thank you. These articles have made no sense to me but admittedly I have not bothered to rtfa after a bit as it felt like bs. This at least explains it. Funny that they are speaking non inflation adjusted which is likely what I am feeling.

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Yeah I am not making the ~25% more I should be making to stay even from 2019 to now.

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yeah. its funny the unrelated articles that I see related to it. Dr. Pepper becomes the number two soda seller. Don’t know about anyone else but around me dr. pepper is the only soda that comes up as 99 cents for a 2liter about once a month. Even the generics do not go on sale that often to that price and 69 cent 2liters are long gone. As one person pointed out in another thing the fed uses a basket of goods that changes based on what people are buying so if folks buy cheaper options out of necessity then that is not included in inflation numbers.

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And the name of the person running that department? Albert Einstein. Now everyone clap

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Policy_Institute

This is a pro Union and pro labour org

But this inflation shill is hard to reconcile tbh

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The last time I looked the real impressive growth was at the lowest ends of the labor market. Effectively it’s state minimum wage increases hitting. Everyone above minimum wage is far less affected by this. But you do have to go looking for that kind of information. Leadership wants to look at the line go up and cheer, not understanding that the person making the median isn’t really affected by this. the other fun thing is since it’s mostly minimum wage movement, they aren’t suddenly being able to afford stuff. They’re still getting crushed by inflation like most people.

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Which is great… lower end is who needs income improvement he most.

However, this is not a W overall and neither side is able to really provide any plans how to fix structural issues.

More Perfect Union is another example who is shilling biden recently, i mean i get it… but labor orgs push it too hard, they will lose credibility imho.

Democratic party is not pro labour, neither is Biden. If people can make their choices, i don’t get my these orgs are taking this risk.

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I agree that it’s great news. I’m just pointing out where the disconnect is.

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