86 points

Too bad the inflation number they’re using is exactly what the whole ‘lies, damn lies, and statistics’ saying is talking about.

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yeah my raises have been like 2% still and food is double what it used to be.

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That’s not incompatible with what they said. They’re saying that the rate of wage increases over the last year outpaced inflation. They also ran below inflation during the COVID-19 crisis.

COVID-19’s impact started in 2020.

looks at graph in article

Okay, though it looks like inflation only took off in early 2021.

They’re saying that from June 2023 to June 2024, real wages increased. But they also decreased for about two years prior to that, from a couple months into 2021 until about halfway through 2023 – you can see the dark blue line being below 0 for that period (or, equivalently, that the medium blue line was above the light blue line). Halfway through 2023, it then rises above 0, and has been above since that point. But the period of time that it was decreasing (a bit over two years) was about twice as long as the one year that it’s been increasing, and during that decrease period, was decreasing faster than it increased over the last year. So they’re rebounding, but they won’t be where they were immediately prior to the crisis.

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So, basically, they’re not saying anything worthy of a headline, much less a whole article. Thanks for letting us know… smdh.

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Thank you. These articles have made no sense to me but admittedly I have not bothered to rtfa after a bit as it felt like bs. This at least explains it. Funny that they are speaking non inflation adjusted which is likely what I am feeling.

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Yeah I am not making the ~25% more I should be making to stay even from 2019 to now.

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yeah. its funny the unrelated articles that I see related to it. Dr. Pepper becomes the number two soda seller. Don’t know about anyone else but around me dr. pepper is the only soda that comes up as 99 cents for a 2liter about once a month. Even the generics do not go on sale that often to that price and 69 cent 2liters are long gone. As one person pointed out in another thing the fed uses a basket of goods that changes based on what people are buying so if folks buy cheaper options out of necessity then that is not included in inflation numbers.

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The article is talking macroeconomics, you’re talking microeconomics. Two different worlds.

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54 points

Now do median

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Median earnings grew faster than inflation every quarter between Q2 2022 and Q4 2023, a year and a half straight. Ticked down in Q1 2024 but basically back to pre pandemic levels.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600Q

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No one in this thread actually wants answers to their questions. They wanna bitch and moan. What are you thinking?

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I would like so see the median also.

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I wonder what the average income is for US families if one was to remove all the billionaires from the statistic.

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I can’t wait for that train to come to town.

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The real median household income in the United States for 2022 was $74,580, which represents a 2.3 percent decline from the 2021 estimate of $76,3301. This figure is based on money income, which is pretax and does not account for the value of in-kind transfers. It’s important to note that this calculation excludes billionaires and focuses on the broader population.

It seems that they are already excluded for some reason.

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They are not excluded, it’s just the the number of people is used, not the amount of money

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Because it’s a median which by definition excludes extremes.

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Lol I hate to break it to you homie but billionaires are not paid in hourly wages so they are excluded from this report.

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It’s so nice to be leaving another historic, traumatic crisis and entering another depressing normal, where we get to live out our tedious, soul crushing lives while we await the next crisis.

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Not this citizen here, though. This “tal” is a real patriot, sharing half-assed hopium around like smearing shit on his teeth and grinning at us all. 🤦🏼

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ITT: I haven’t personally experienced it so this is not true.

I wonder if y’all realize how like conservatives you are sometimes.

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Personal experience, speaking with the community and hearing their experiences mean nothing. Believe what the owner class says at all times.

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The article is real and “shit still sucks” can both be true.

My thought upon reading the headline was “gonna need another 12 years before people start thinking we have turned the corner for the better.”

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If an effect is that minor it could be statistical noise.

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This is hilarious because I’ll tell you the exact same thing I told conservatives during COVID:

I’ll take data over your anecdotes, thanks.

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I like data as well.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-labor-force-participation-rate.htm

You will notice that not only has the US not returned to pre-housing crisis levels it hasn’t even returned to March 2020 levels.

Now go ahead and try to hand wave this way.

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I get what you are implying but it really isn’t relevant. Economics is just someone’s opinion at best, more often than not it is propaganda, lying with math. Not at all the same as the vaccine nutters or global warming denying.

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The hole was really deep. And that inflation from Covid didn’t go away. Beating inflation now does not negate losing to inflation then. You have to beat inflation that much harder to both gain now and make up for previous losses.

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