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Honestly, I think that impeaching all 6 justices is the right thing to do.

Just explain it to people in congress. You WILL lose your power when the whip comes down. You MAY be imprisoned or killed if you don’t get in line, and even if not, any power you had in congress will be stripped and discarded. There is no safety, even for the most extreme of the true believers. This is your chance. If you don’t try to stop it, then I think it’s better odds than 50/50 than within a couple of years you’ll be saying you’d do ANYTHING to be able to go back to today and do it, and have your old life just hanging out in Washington and doing legalized insider trading and collecting bricampaign contributions and not having to worry about what will happen to you or your family or your home, again.

I don’t know if the people will believe if it is explained to them. Groupthink and complacency are powerful things. But that is absolutely what’s at stake.

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Biden needs to dissolve the Supreme Court and recreate it with more justices and term limits as an official act.

There is no federal documentation saying the President can’t. And thusly we see Biden should remove them to show them what naked force feels like to receive.

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Biden ain’t gonna do shit.

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74 points

Why bother with impeachment? Biden should just exploit their most recent verdict and round them up as part of an emergency official act.

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This is the fascism trap. It’s tempting to fight back “in kind” once the rules start going out the window, and obviously by the letter of their decision it would be perfectly legal for him to just assassinate them as an official act and then nominate all new justices. But this is a trap. The further we all abandon the unspoken rules that keep things on the rails, the worse it gets. You have to fight back on the tilted table without yourself breaking any rules you can avoid breaking.

It’s a shitty situation but that is the strategy, as far as I understand it.

(And I know, or I assume, that you weren’t serious - but still it applies, even to more minor things like solving the problem by nominating 10 new justices or things like that.)

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Isn’t this the same “taking the high road” strategy that has consistently put democrats at a disadvantage when dealing with a side that doesn’t care about the rules? I bring this up because I’m trying to get an understanding for this framework of thinking. In my heart, I know it’s probably the correct path, but I know it’s not the best one when dealing with the current political game.

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But this is a trap. The further we all abandon the unspoken rules that keep things on the rails, the worse it gets.

The left: “we can’t break decorum and unwritten rules, or the right will do it even worse!”

The right: does it even worse anyway.

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27 points

America’s dependence on unspoken rules and the assumption that people would abide by those rules is the weakest link in American democracy. It was just a matter of time until someone decided to exploit that…

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26 points

No, this isn’t The Facism Trap, this is not falling for the paradox of tolerance.

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7 points

It’s getting worse either way it seems, frankly it’s getting to the point that drastic action now could prevent worse harm in future.

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7 points

if you round up your enemies they win

🤡

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6 points

They don’t have to be dead. He can just declare they’re no longer the justices. If they want to argue that’s not how it works, good.

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6 points

Dont forget we got most of our rights by making plays that were “illegal”. Every single right you enjoy today is because people risked it all to change it. Biden should do it. Why? Because good people are accustomed to making good choices, and it is much easier for a good person to make one intentionally morally bad choice, than it is for a bad person to make morally good choices as the leader of our country.

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Well put.

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You’re right. I much prefer the guy with his boot on my neck to wear a blue tie.

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2 points

And yet… you’re the one in this thread who’s stumping for the boot coming down on all our necks. But sure. Keep talking.

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25 points

Biden should use the 6 infinity stones Supreme Court judges to destroy the infinity stones fire the Supreme Court judges

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I just looked up the inaugural oath and the president promises to defend the Constitution from domestic enemies. So if the president as part of their duties consider the supreme court a thread to the constitution then it’s his duty to fire them. And they already said he’d be immune.

Not sure what he’s waiting for to be honest.

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I agree that there are 6 Justices contorting their understanding of the Constitution but I don’t think impeachment is the answer. The political tit-for-tat has only grown more outrageous each passing year, from withholding SCOTUS justice confirmations to cabinet picks and budget brinksmanship. Our elected officials are more interested in scoring points than governing. Both sides of the aisle should be ashamed of how they are representing us, “We, The People.”

I wish I had a solution but I’ve grown disillusioned by the one-upsmanship and grandstanding. There is no coming together anymore.

This exchange from DS9’s Past Tense, fittingly set in late-August 2024, comes to mind.

SISKO: It’s not that they don’t give a damn, Doctor. It’s that they’ve given up. The social problems they face seem too enormous to deal with.

BASHIR: That only makes things worse. Causing people to suffer because you hate them is terrible, but causing people to suffer because you have forgotten how to care? That’s really hard to understand.

SISKO: They’ll remember. It’ll take some time and it won’t be easy, but eventually people in this century will remember how to care.

Call it Trekkie idealism but I still have hope. Live long and prosper, y’all 🖖

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There is no tit for tat with what you cited. All of those were actions by Republicans.

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4 points

The Bell riots - September 2024

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3 points

impeachment or death. They are the only two options I’m aware of to get a SCOTUSee out.

And the latter now includes assisted suicide with a Biden held gun.

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86 points

The US now has nine unelected people who control the President.

What can go wrong?

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35 points

They control the president unless the president uses an official act to get rid of them

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10 points

Checks and balances, baby! amiright, guys?

/s

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2 points

Checks and Drone Strikes

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-8 points

I was about to get really angry but then I saw your sarcasm punctuation so I’m calm again.

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7 points

They’ve controlled who was president before, who’s to say they won’t do that again too.

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57 points

They’ve made a complete mockery of our entire country and all of its systems. I’m about to turn to extremism. Even my local action feels like its useless in the face of this shit.

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50 points

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

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29 points

So they admit what happened and Trump’s role in it?

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“They’re not confessing. They’re bragging.”

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