Same should go for voting. Felons deserve to vote as well not just run for presidency.
Felons should be allowed to vote for the felon if they want.
As a registered SO this would make my life a lot better.
I agree, but we all know the state and landlords won’t do that. It’s us vs the rich. The rich want the poor to be good brainwashed workers, and if you did anything the state said is now illegal (being homeless) then you deserve zero of your constitutional rights!
Just dumb founding that Trump can just walk around freely and raise more money from his crimes, and yet people are arrested for shoplifting needed supplies, and squater’s rights are removed on empty yet perfectly fine private property.
well it depends. is said Felon rich and/or someone of influence/celebrity? then those “rules” suddenly go out the window. There’s plenty of people of influence and celebrity that are felons and they get by just fine.
Been in a movie? successful album? on tv? oh you’re a felon? well i’m sure you’re still an upstanding citizen. oh you’ve done none of the above? and you’re a felon? sorry I can’t work with you.
Felon = already shown they aren’t normal human beings fit for society. I’m not going to trust my property to a known criminal, when I can easily get someone who’s normal.
Eh. That itself is a slippery issue, especially for the wrongfully convicted. Not to mention, if they do their time, they should no longer be punished.
There’s only a very small minority of truly heinous humans who should be locked away forever.
I genuinely don’t care. If I have the choice between felon and a not felon, I’ll go with the not felon every day. It’s the easiest choice I’ll make in my life.
If they didn’t want to deal with the issues caused by being a felon, they should not have committed felonies. Simple as.
That’s a free-rider problem. As an individual, you don’t want to rent to a convicted criminal. But as a society, we want criminals that served their time to be able to rent, because if they can’t they’ll be forced to squat, which will increase the probability they’ll continue to do more crimes (they already broke the law by squatting), so we do want people to rent to them.
If society wants to host convicted felons then society can pay for it.
I’ll be more than willing to host them if I am guaranteed the refund of any and all damage they create, and the ability to remove them from my property whenever I want.
In the meantime, as long as I’m on the hook for damages caused by a bad tenant and I don’t have the legal right to evict a bad tenant on a moment’s notice, then I will filter out convicted felons, and other risky tenants.
It’s easy to say ‘you should do this thing’ when you have no skin in the game.
How about if a person successfully and fully completes their sentence associated with the felony(s) that they were charged with the felony is removed from their record.
We as a country have decided that certain punishments are meted out for certain crimes. If the person serves the punishment that we the people have decided is appropriate then why are they still saddled with the sentence of their former crime after the punishment is served?
Reductio ad absurdum: Felony conviction for child molestation. Removed from record. Should they have free reign to be able to apply for any job, even if it might involve children?
You are talking about the conviction, I am talking about the punishment. We the people of this country decide what the punishments are for crimes.
So in the case of a murder conviction it maybe decided that this person has to be incarcerated for 20 years. They do their time and released. They did the punishment We decided as appropriate for the crime. They are done.
In your example again We the people get to decide the punishment. It could be (and probably is) part of the punishment that a convicted child molester can never have a job working with people under a certain age. Maybe in this case the punishment can never fully be carried out so they always carry the moniker of felon/child molester.
All I’m saying is that for those crimes that have a definitive start and end point for the punishment there should be a qualifying start and end point for the title of felon.
I find your distinction to be arbitrary. You could argue that punishment for child sex abuse should have a beginning and an end, or you can argue that the punishment for a felony conviction does not end when you get out of prison.
I work in finance, and I certainly would not want to bring on someone who was convicted of felony security fraud working for the firm, because it ours everything in jeopardy.