123 points

Original post is def spot on though.

The modern homeschool movement is born out of an attempt to stop the kids from realizing being traded as brood stock like their parents’ property to make business with their friends over is bullshit.

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Also just so parents can choose the “truth” they are teaching kids. That’s how you get uneducated racists and the like

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Selective education with extreme bias is dangerous in almost every instance. Usually with a large dose of fanatical religion thrown in.

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12 points

“Jesus blesses John with a dozen apples. John then gives one-fourth to his unemployed neighbor, who is gay. How many lightning strikes will God send to pumish John for enabling evil?”

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As someone who was home-schooled, I absolutely agree with Cosmonaut Star. I dodged the alt-right insanity of modern homeschooling, but I got the “okay sit here and do learning unsupervised for a while” treatment after I turned 11 or 12. Prior to then I feel like my parents did an okay job at making sure I was keeping up with normal kids and taking me to social gatherings and stuff, but that just gradually slipped away the older I got. I feel like I’m still unpacking mental baggage from basically not having a life in my teens.

Thank fuck I got into self-hosting, networking, and Linux/BSD stuff in general as a hobby otherwise I would have zero marketable skills for a job.

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49 points

My mom wasn’t a alt-right wingnut, thankfully. But she kept me homeschooled despite me asking for regular schooling because she wanted the enabling of abuse. A child who could tell a teacher what she was saying to me was a threat to her. I didn’t go to any schooling beyond some 1st grade, and then she forced me into college when she grew tired of abusing me, until I ran out of support venues and she dragged me back to home.

One homework thing my thought was to just read comic panels from Sunday newspapers archived online. That’s it. I was given old “general knowledge” books but never anything in depth of any study. I had to learn fields from parsing google and Wikipedia, even if she allowed the use of a computer.

I’m sure there’s some legitimate use cases for homeschooling, especially for children who are immune compromised. But I’ve never heard of a happy story of homeschooling, lord knows I’m not one of them. I was held back socially and education wise from my peers, even with my skills.

At the very very least, there should be a way for the state to enforce regular homeschooling standards. Track what grade the kids should be on, how they are doing, and then also economic aid for those who do.

But my personal experience with homeschooling is that it’s never for the betterment of the child, it’s always to enable abuse and submission of the child to the parent. Because new ideas are scary to the parent, and new ideas allow new ways of thinking that the parent didn’t want the child to do.

I’m biased as hell, but when you’re trapped with someone who beats you for a learning disability that would have been accommodated for in a public school that you as a 14 year old asked for, it leaves an impression on you.

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24 points

I follow a few YouTube channels of people who live on sailboats and travel the world full-time, and some of them have kids. Having a transient lifestyle like that seems like one of the few relatively legitimate excuses for homeschooling, to me.

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22 points

Having a transient lifestyle like that sounds like you shouldn’t have children, at least to me.

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74 points

I think this model of education is damaging to kids and the government should do something about it

I’m going to train my kids to fucking kill you

Most normal libertarian response

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35 points

What’s more libertarian than a good old fashioned southern lynching?

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40 points

Knowing the age of consent in every jurisdiction.

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16 points

This is so accurate

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12 points

Being harassed by bears.

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Those wild capitalists were lucky surviving bears. And later those bears were lucky survining russians.

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Maybe not outright illegal, but I think it should be heavily regulated. I’ve heard way too many stories of kids being raised in isolation and barely being taught even basic math under the guise of homeschooling.

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Homeschooling is allowed in my country, but they have to take exams in front of a jury to prove they have been properly schooled.

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I think you mean invidulator, everyone knows what you mean just trying to be helpful. That’s an officially appointed watcher at exams, a jury is a team of people who give a verdict in a legal case.

And yeah that’s the best way for sure, some places have mandatory participation in community events too which i think is good

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No, you seem to be describing someone who supervises an exam. What I mean is a committee/inspection that decides if the homeschooling meets the objectives set by the governments and that the student has a sufficient understanding of the teachings.

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barely being taught even basic math under the guise of homeschooling.

yah that was me.

There was no actual “schooling” it was just a cover-story so people didn’t pry and learn that my parents were too crazy/drunk/high/delusional to properly raise children. The first couple decades of my life I basically just wandered in the desert alone around my parent’s “religious compound” a couple hours from the nearest town and tried to get my hands on any actual scientific or rational reading material that extended family members managed to smuggle in.

It had disastrous impact on my adult life. I did go to school later and excelled and soared through AP college classes… but with my life so handicapped from the start, I was unable to continue higher education due to poverty, unable to land a stable career, and worst of all, severe depression and anxiety from the CPTSD of basically spending 20 years of my most important developmental years isolated with two toxic, hateful, abusive parents and literally NOBODY else. I became non-verbal for years, people thought I was autistic. I have been in and out of therapy, on and off meds, and have had long, extended struggles with substance abuse, depression so bad I can’t move some days, and thoughts of self-harm.

My parents were absolutely convinced that biblical prophecy was real and was about to be fulfilled, they saw themselves as actual prophets or chosen ones that would play a part in the coming apocalypse, and for years of my life I was also convinced that I was part of some greater destiny.

Fast forward through my adult life, and I’m clearing out my parent’s belongings after they drank themselves to death, wondering what the fuck happened and what my real future is going to look like. Do you think AI is going to replace grocery baggers? Because I fully see myself at 80 bagging groceries.

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My brother and sisiter-in-law briefly did “homeschooling” with their kids. I put the word in scare quotes because it wasn’t what people normally think of when they consider homeschooling. It was actually a private school which the kids went to four days a week and then one day a week the parents guided the kids at home through a lesson plan prepared by the school. The only point of this was that it allowed the school to hire non-accredited and non-union teachers since it was ostensibly homeschooling and not a normal school.

At least it saved the parents money, right? Ha ha nope! Still expensive as shit - like $30K per year per kid.

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Ha ha nope! Still expensive as shit - like $30K per year per kid.

Right, universal education is not a thing in USSA American Empire.

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huh? public school is free

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Homeschooling can be great if you have the time/ability but the parents do need to take it seriously and hire tutors in areas they’re less familiar with. There definitely needs to be proctored testing to make sure kids aren’t just being taught weird religious doctrine and nothing else.

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8 points

Facebook groups for homschooling moms are fucking wild. To be fair you never know who’s trolling there, because if you want to fool someone, you fool someone that is very easy to fool.

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And honestly, that’s the most important reason for public school: it makes kids less naive

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7 points

There’s a family I saw on Facebook who had their ten kids apprehended and adopted out for beating them with a switch and not actually educating them in home school. Thankfully the kids are doing well.

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Haha well I have 9 brothers and sisters and we were homeschooled and in a cult. Crazy shit. We are all out and doing well now thankfully

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Oh wow. What kind of cult?

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2 points

It should be child abuse to home school autistic kids. I’ve seen what it does to them.

Instead of public schools, we should have school choice.

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52 points

Hanging, for an opinion? That seems pretty un-libertarian, doesn’t it?

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No no, they just mean that people like that should have large penises. Extremely libertarian.

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21 points

They’re about as “libertarian” as the Nazis were “socialist.”

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5 points

Exactly about. There is no such thing as a socialist Nazi in exactly the same way there is no such thing as a libertarian capitalist.

Conservatives just make, and have made, a deliberate strategy of stealing terminology from the left to trick idiots, and the left lets them do it to not be associated with them.

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Reminder that one of the biggest think pieces of libertarianism also created the infamous fourteen words chanted by white supremacists, one other just thought it was a neat idea to capture a term from the left.

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