“I’m the nominee of the Democratic Party. No one’s pushing me out. I’m not leaving," he said in a call to the broader campaign
A New York Times poll conducted after the debate, which was published on Wednesday, suggested Trump was now holding his biggest lead yet at six points.
And a separate poll published by the BBC’s US partner CBS News suggested Trump has a three-point lead over Mr Biden in the crucial battleground states
Him refusing to listen to voters is reason enough to replace him.
But Joe can’t win without Dem voters. Every indication is he’s willing to hand trump the presidency out of spite if the party doesn’t force him out.
He’s not fit to be president, even if we beat Trump. We’re stuck with this shit where Biden does whatever the fuck he wants, and rarely agrees with the people who put him in office.
Welcome to how the Democrats have operated as a party since the Bill Clinton era in the 90’s.
I’m ready for the next step, which is to blame voters for not voting hard enough, after *checks notes… two years of viciously saying “You can’t critique the President it’s too close to an election” as if it’s never not too close to an election to critique Democrats apparently.
I mean, this is the kind of messaging we should expect from the office until the exact moment he flips. There isn’t anything really “new” in this BBC article, its mostly a rehash of several other articles and polls that have come out since last Thursday.
I’m still holding out for an announcement this evening/ tomorrow morning, but I am becoming less confident in that. I’m still confident that Biden isn’t going to be the nominee, but he’s creating a significant cost associated with him continuing to run as a lost-cause candidate. We need to move on and regroup, and we’re running out of time to do so.
At this point, Biden needs to basically recover 30 points in the polling to overcome the disadvantage we know he carries going into a general (we have seen how he underperforms his polling on election day; we also know that Trump typically outperforms his polling on election day). A thirty point swing at this point is a statistical impossibility, for those being practical about the matter. I can post the analysis again, but no swing of that magnitude has ever happened this close to election day. Ever. Based on his current polling, Biden has a less than 1% probability of winning, which is to say, basically impossible.
Even changing the nominee is risky at this point. There’s never been a party that has won when changing the nominee at the “last minute.”
That’s what’s scary here, replacing him could even be more disastrous than standing behind him. Both are bad choices. We’ve been fucked into a bad choice by a party that doesn’t give a shit about its own voters.
If only literally anybody in the party apparatus had listened to reason in four fucking years instead of being like “We can cart his corpse out until he croaks like we did with Dianne Feinstein.”
There’s never been…
Even changing the nominee is risky at this point.
So is not replacing him, and the hand wringing around it being a problem is a significant contributor to this mess lasting as long as it has.
The right answer is to go to an open convention and duke it out the way its always been done in the past. At least bring back some semblance of democracy to the Democratic party; you’ll get a SHIT ton of coverage on the matter; it will turn into a real horse race and get people engaged, and then you’ll have a candidate is at least competitive, which Biden isnt.
You shouldnt be scared of replacing Biden. Thats like being scared of pulling over in a car with a flat tire.
Man child.
The debate isn’t even the issue. It’s the fact that we just got a king and he’s saying that we, the people who voted him in, are the only ones that can stop a dictatorship. We’re not - he literally has all of the power to save democracy and isn’t doing jack but campaign on the fall of the US
Nothing is stopping him from Officially Acting on six Supreme Court Justice literally right now.
Except that it would be against the law, and it’s hard to contrast yourself with Trump if you are also now committing crimes (even if those crimes are for the bettering of the US). Immunity doesn’t blank your crimes from the public’s minds, and forcefully removing even bad faith Justices from the Supreme Court is not a great look when he has been campaigning on knowing “right from wrong” and respecting the rule of law.
Trump is legit about to have those powers, and the only way to get that to not happen is for Biden to do something first. He will lose the public’s vote if he doesn’t (and he won’t, so he’ll send us straight into the Trump Kingdom). The time to play hardball with these scumbags was long ago, and he’s still using the kid gloves.
The GOP won’t use kid gloves next year.
I don’t get the whole “holier than thou” mentality of the Democratic party. It IS the law and we need to follow it accordingly.
I’m not asking for Biden to execute 6 Supreme Court justices, but maybe he can throw them in jail as an “official” act.
Stop sticking to a playbook that no longer exists. Show real fucking leadership and demonstrate why their ruling needs a second fucking look!
I’ll remember biden not executing 6 justices and letting us slide into fascism all so he can keep his optics of being the candidate that knows right from wrong. Fuck all that, biden should use his powers granted by the Supreme Court to right the ship, because when he loses this election Trump is gonna execute a lot more people and expand his power so now isn’t the time for him to be a pussy old man and use the remaining life his has to fuck shit up to stop fascism
The presidency gained expanded immunity not expanded powers. He can give the CIA illegal orders without fear of prosecution, but the CIA is not bound to follow them.
That’s the key difference in how this change impacts a Biden Presidency, and how it would impact a Trump presidency. Biden has surrounded himself with people who respect the law, while Trump will surround himself with criminals, lackies, and cultists.
Changing candidates now is a terrible Idea. Who is proposed to replace him? None of these articles posit a different candidate, just not Biden. Ridiculous
Harris, Newsom, Whitmer, Pritzker, and Shapiro are the most common potential replacements I’ve seen floated.
And considering the DNC locked Sanders out of winning primaries twice in a row, how are all the disenfranchised Democrat voters supposed to feel about…
The party choosing to ignore Biden’s advanced age and not letting the cat out of the bag until well after we could have run some primaries and let the voters decide.
We’re left with two options with a month and a half to the convention. Let the party apparatchiks choose the candidate, or let the delegates choose the candidate, both of which are inherently anti-democratic choices.
The DNC made these choices on purpose and are leaving voters without an actual choice on purpose. It is literally the party’s choices that have lead us to this moment, but somehow the party making another bad choice will fix things? I seriously doubt that.
Who, when chosen by the DNC for us, (not BY us) do you think will actually excite voters?
And which of them are have stated that they intend to run for president? Either go with what we have or don’t go. Those are your options.
Michele Obama is the only one consistently beating Trump in polls. Not that I want Obama v2, but that’s where it stands currently.
Done properly, a replacement would get a big bump with the nomination, but that’s not much to count on.
Jon Stewart would probably wipe the floor with Trump if anyone can figure out how to draft him.
Jon Stewart would rather make jokes over a still image of Biden than step the fuck up.
And thats the reson people like him. He tells the truth about everyone instead of pretending the threat of a facist is a good reason to sweep all issues with your candidate under the rug and lie.
Considering how slow walking biden to the convention has been going lately it seems he was right.
The people voting for democrats are going to vote for whoever is on the ballot. Same applies for the die-hard republicans. It’s the independents who decide the vote and many of them are now considering Trump. I’d argue that to whoever Trump isn’t the obvious first choice pretty much anyone else but Biden would be a more compelling candidate. They know what they’re going to get with both Trump and Biden. How much worse could they realistically be if we just pick a random dude from the street and nominate them instead?
