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I’m one of the dozen people that bought premium to not have to deal with it. I’m just patiently waiting for alternatives to become more viable so I can jump ship entirely. YouTube is the last remaining Google service I still use.

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8 points

You have funded the enemy.

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From what I’ve read, YouTubers don’t get paid from views that use an ad-blocker, but they still do from views that have premium, so my justification is that I’m helping support the creators I like. I’m also paying for Nebula, which some of the documentary-style creators upload to as well now.

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17 points

Youtube’s crackdown on adblocker usage has created a huge Streisand effect. There’s a lot of people all over the world that would’ve never known about adblockers if youtube just didn’t say anything and didn’t do exactly what they did.

Now, all the major adblockers and ad-blocking browsers have stepped their game up and made it so people can still block ads on youtube.

There’s userscripts you can get from greasyfork…or is it greaseyfork that allow you to bypass all of youtube’s bullshit.

100% of the videos that actually belong on youtube are almost always demonetized anyway.

If you’re not constantly getting demonetized on every video you put out, despite bending over backwards to follow the rules, you’re doing something wrong.

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Not to mention that Vanced-type apps and content mirrors are still going strong, and proper alternative platforms like Grayjay and Nebula are getting more attractive.

I wonder how soon self-hosted video distribution will be feasible. Does ActivityPub support that yet?

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I think Peertube fits that description: “PeerTube is a self-hosted ActivityPub-federated video streaming platform using P2P directly in your web browser.”

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9 points

There’s a lot of people all over the world that would’ve never known about adblockers

I see this sentiment a lot. Is there any reliable data to support it?

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2 points

Exhibit A: Youtube premium

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1 point

yes, ublock, adguard and brave all stepped up their game

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4 points

Not OP but in my personal experience I’ve talked to countless people that had no idea watching YouTube without ads is possible (without paying) and their minds were blown. With Google calling out attention to it like this, I’m sure many will get curious. Most people don’t use their electronics beyond basic functionality…

And tbh you’re gonna be hard pressed to get real data of how many ppl are suddenly finding out about it.

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33 points

What this? I cant hear you over my high definition yt-dlp content.

Where i am going I haven’t needed a google account in over a year.

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3 points

Point us towards salvation, Grand Master!

…where can i sign up…?

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Are you familiar with Jellyfin?

https://jellyfin.org/

If you can set up a server of this then its as easy as making the library folder the output folder for yt-dlp

https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp

I didnt even have to write me own script. I gave chatgpt a notepad with channel urls and just told it to write me code to load these urls one by one and download the Last 2 videos. (Trust me you dont want to accidentally download a whole channel). Yt dlp can maintain a log of sort so videos aren’t downloaded more then once.

I run this script on a schedule and delete the video when i am done with it. Nice and clean. I can also recommend trying to run an invididious instance for general video browsing but mine took some twiddling to setup right.

https://invidious.io/

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1 point

Cheers!

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2 points

Also if someone else wants a prebuilt solution for this, I’ve heard good things about tube archivist

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22 points

What will happen when ads are injected in the video stream directly.

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11 points

The same thing that happened with sponsored segments.

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11 points

Look forward to the day they require eye tracking & answering questions about the ads they showed

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Sponsored segments are fixed. Injected ads won’t be.

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At that point i will either have to use an ai tool to scrub the filth out

Or

Consider if i really need whatever content is within it and touch some grass instead.

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9 points

With yt-dlp? Skip them manually.

Like, my main issue with ads is all the tracking they do. If they add non-targeted ads to the video file I downloaded, whatever, I’ll just fast forward through that part of the video.

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1 point

You’ve never needed a YouTube account to watch youtube

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Personally, I use Tubular on my phone ( Newpipe fork with sponsorBlock ), freetube on PC, and Smart tube on my android tv.

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44 points

Youtube is wasting ressources, it’s a fight they can’t win

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nah, if they embed the ad into the video stream (they were testing this for some users!), the only adblocking option will be to blank out the screen and wait through the ad (or download the video in advance and edit the ad out automatically), both of which would make it a lot more annoying to adblock than currently.

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2 points

YouTube Revanced already has a blocker for sponsor segments embedded in the video.

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you can skip through sponsor segments, but these are ads from youtube, not from the creator, and youtube will not let you conveniently skip through the ads. if implemented correctly, youtube could ensure that the ad is fully played, which would need downloading and automatic editing to counter.

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2 points

No, you just need to skip the ad. Sponsorblock has been working for years now, solving pretty much the same problem

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nope, the ad time varies unlike a sponsor segment, and also youtube would not let you skip through an ad while streaming it, whereas sponsors you can, hence the download and edit out with LLM or whatever algorithm works best

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Sponsor Block relies on the ads being at the same timestamp for all users

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7 points

This is actually one of very few valid cases for an LLM, to help sponsorblock determine ad segments by analyzing the word choice and speech patterns in segments of the video.

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They have infinite resources. They’re making gestures to dissuade normies. I suspect this will get them most of the result they want. They’re also wasting time, effort and resources of adblock programmers (and that is a far more limited resource).

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They don’t need to actually unblock everything. They just need to convince their advertisers and stock holders they are.

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27 points

If they had infinite resources, they wouldn’t need to worry about adblockers.

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Because they wouldn’t need advertising?

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They aren’t worried about them. They are squeezing what they can out of the platform.

Iirc YouTube has a positive revenue now

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11 points

Sure but as long as there is a least one dedicated bearded dude hidden in a dark underground room behind his screen, they will be defeated. No matter how much they spent on the new technology. What I mean is that devs might burn out, they will still be replaced by others. And we get such people faster than youtube is able to burn them out

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6 points

Exactly this. They ALWAYS lose this fight.

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YouTube can definitely afford a war ship and pay people to shoot…we may have enough people to operate a death star for free but can we afford one ?

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The image doesn’t quite work because youtube needs a MASSIVE solution that works, scales, doesn’t fuck up their infrastructure and on and on and on.

Meanwhile on the user front, all your doing essentially is just skipping parts of a video, that will always be infinitely cheaper easier to do. Challenging for sure, but the solution can be small.

Even something as stupid as delaying your video start by 1 min, pre buffering then skipping ads. It’s brute force and barbaric but the point is that Google can’t do shit against that.

My ultimate vision is AI that preloads videos you want and detects ads / sponsor segments and just skips them / cuts them out on your device.

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Another way to think about it… YouTube has huge amounts of compute resources, but per user it’s an extremely small amount. Your phone has orders of magnitude more power to dedicate to you than YouTube does. Collectively, we have more processing power than YouTube.

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