I don’t know if it’s ddos attacks or if it’s a “lemmy hug of death” way to many users overloading the servers network, we need a bigger Internet pipe?

The site usually works for me during off hours early morning usually best.

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I really don’t get the sense that Lemmy is being overwhelmed by users. Things be pretty quite in these here parts. If this kind of volume is bringing down what I thought was one of the main instances, Fediverse seems kind of doomed. I’ve long been worried about scalability. I’ve tried other instances and had issues. Each time I think should I give up or hop instances, make a new account etc. People will flock to the biggest most stable instances, but if they can’t afford fancy hosting, everything starts to crumble

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Here is some useful information for people wanting to move instances. For a list of instances, along with with stats for those instances:

https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy or https://lemmyverse.net/

Also, tools for migrating instances:

https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim (easy) - Latest Version Download (just select your OS type and run the program)

https://github.com/wescode/lemmy_migrate

https://github.com/Ac5000/lemmy_account_sync

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i even notice downtime, so i guess who ever is attacking is doing a very shitty job lol.

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Unless your account is on lemmy.world, you wouldn’t notice it.

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The beauty of federation!

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Is this true even if accessing Lemmy.world from another instance?

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Depends, your instance will cache content already retrieved but you’ll get errors when trying to interact or load updates. The same server instance talks both to clients and other servers.

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I sure it’s Spez.

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Turn the question back, actually. Do the DDOSers even think they’re achieving anything relevant, beyond being a bit annoying? .world is down from time to time, wow, how terrible. It’s not like I can’t log onto any other server and interact with world’s channels and threads from there, only to have my posts and upvotes become globally available as soon as world is back- Oh, wait, that’s exactly how it works.

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You can log into non-world instances using world credentials?

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Unfortunately no. I don’t understand this well enough to know why accounts don’t sync, but that seems like it would be much better to me.

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No, you make an alt-account on a non-world instance and interact with world communities from there. The only issue is that you aren’t carrying over your subscriptions and blocks unless you use a special tool, about which I don’t know much.

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I tried figuring out how to use the Lemmy API to subscribe to all my subscriptions from my kbin account a week or two ago

I remember getting stuck and giving up, so I think I’m going to do it semi-manually or something later on, unless some kind wizard blesses me with the name of such a tool

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Just make another account, you can usually even use the same username cuz there’s so many instances out there.

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No. It’s basically like signing in at another e-mail provider. Instead of asdfasdfasdf@yahoo.com you now have asdfasdfasdf@hotmail.com and can from then on e-mail the same contacts. Just with posts, threads and comments instead of e-mail of course.

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From the recent update shared, it seems like the ddos is coming from inside the hoose (ie the ddos attacker might be another lemmy instance). In other words the point of the ddos appear to be to cause people to move off of lemmy.world. so in a way it is working. A lot of people are telling people to move off lemmy.world.

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The ironic part is that unless they have access to a botnet or are operating their own colo facility, they are probably paying more to run the attack than the target is.

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If .world is down, can you still interact with it from other instances?

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Each instance keeps a local copy of the communities they’re federated with. Users of that instance interact with the local copy, and instances communicate with each other to tell what’s going on.

This means that, if .world crashes at 5PM, and you have an account on lemm.ee, you can go to lemm.ee’s local copy of world->worldnews, find a thread started at 4PM, comment on it, and other lemm.ee users will see and upvote/downvote your comment.

When .world is back on at 7PM, lemm.ee will tell it: “Hey, Cold_Brew_Enema said [Thanks a lot for the gold kind stranger] and got 6 downvotes”, and .world will update the thread with your comment and downvotes for users of all instances to see.

This is my understanding of how it works, and I’m not familiar with the actual code, but it seems to be close to reality.

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I’m not sure it works like that but it makes sense that way.

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There may be some things that don’t get synced if the instance holding the pending federation messages also goes down or restarts because AFAIK they are stored in memory, not in persistent storage.

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Excellent thank you!

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